From: Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: "Marek Olšák" <maraeo@gmail.com>
Cc: "Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
"Daniel Stone" <daniel@fooishbar.org>,
"James Jones" <jajones@nvidia.com>,
"Brian Starkey" <brian.starkey@arm.com>,
"Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"amd-gfx mailing list" <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"ML Mesa-dev" <mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org>,
nd@arm.com,
"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/fourcc: add LINEAR modifiers with an exact pitch alignment
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 11:47:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5DM35KTto7cN1Wa@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAxE2A7T0ho42j_a1XbqA1wdCTECZs_MjBb-THv3c+HudWAULQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 02:21:57PM -0500, Marek Olšák wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 1:41 PM Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 08:58:20AM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 18.01.25 um 03:37 schrieb Marek Olšák:
> > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > 3) Implementing DRM_FORMAT_MOD_LINEAR as having 256B pitch and offset
> > > > alignment. This is what we do today. Even if Intel and some AMD chips
> > > > can do 64B or 128B alignment, they overalign to 256B. With so many
> > > > AMD+NV laptops out there, NV is probably next, unless they already do
> > > > this in the closed source driver.
> >
> > I don't think this works, or at least not any better than the current
> > linear modifier. There's way too many users of that thing out there that I
> > think you can realistically redefine it.
> >
>
> DRM_FORMAT_MOD_LINEAR was redefined on PC a long time ago to mean 256B
> pitch alignment because of laptops with AMD+Intel. Drivers redefined it
> because that's what happens when it's under-defined. As you say,
> DRM_FORMAT_MOD_LINEAR can't be removed, but then it can't work with any
> other pitch alignment on all PC hw either, so there is no other choice.
>
> The options for PC are either a new parameterized linear modifier (with
> properly defined addressing and size equations) or DRM_FORMAT_MOD_LINEAR
> with 256B pitch alignment. There is no 3rd option. Even if you totally
> disregard AMD, you won't get it below 128B or 64B on the rest of PC hw
> anyway, and that's the same problem.
Ah I missed that, but just checked in mesa, happened in 2021 apparently.
Would be really good to document this in the kernel's drm_fourcc.h
comments as the defacto rule. It's better if the docs reflect actual
reality, whatever that is.
-Sima
--
Simona Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-22 10:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-15 20:53 [PATCH] drm/fourcc: add LINEAR modifiers with an exact pitch alignment Marek Olšák
2024-12-15 20:54 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-15 23:22 ` Joshua Ashton
2024-12-15 23:57 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-16 2:08 ` Joshua Ashton
2024-12-16 5:40 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-16 9:28 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-16 21:49 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-16 9:27 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-12-16 10:46 ` Lucas Stach
2024-12-16 14:53 ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-16 21:58 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-18 10:21 ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-16 21:54 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-17 9:59 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-12-16 21:29 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-17 9:14 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-12-17 9:14 ` Brian Starkey
2024-12-17 10:13 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-12-17 11:03 ` Brian Starkey
2024-12-18 9:44 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-12-18 10:24 ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-18 10:32 ` Brian Starkey
2024-12-19 2:53 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-19 9:09 ` Daniel Stone
2024-12-19 10:32 ` Brian Starkey
2024-12-20 0:33 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-20 11:30 ` Brian Starkey
2024-12-20 14:24 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-20 15:27 ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-19 9:02 ` Daniel Stone
2024-12-19 16:09 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-12-20 15:24 ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-25 7:34 ` Marek Olšák
2024-12-19 18:03 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 21:23 ` James Jones
2025-01-14 9:38 ` Marek Olšák
2025-01-14 17:55 ` James Jones
2025-01-15 3:49 ` Marek Olšák
2025-01-14 17:58 ` Daniel Stone
2025-01-15 4:05 ` Marek Olšák
2025-01-15 12:20 ` Daniel Stone
2025-01-17 14:18 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-18 2:37 ` Marek Olšák
2025-01-20 7:58 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-20 18:41 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-21 19:21 ` Marek Olšák
2025-01-22 10:47 ` Simona Vetter [this message]
2025-01-20 21:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-21 9:02 ` Philipp Zabel
2025-01-14 18:33 ` Faith Ekstrand
2025-01-15 4:27 ` Marek Olšák
2025-01-15 8:37 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 22:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-21 22:40 ` James Jones
2025-01-20 21:48 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-14 13:46 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-14 13:50 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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