From: "Lazar, Lijo" <lijo.lazar@amd.com>
To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] drm/amdgpu: return the PCIe gen and lanes from the INFO
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:20:08 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a90b0e8e-dd02-031f-0432-1c5f6f02e949@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAxE2A6KJWPJ3eqKoaiJZUJCNqRpx+WYwoGEZKxX2Kf_auLUWg@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/4/2023 4:11 AM, Marek Olšák wrote:
> I see. Well, those sysfs files are not usable, and I don't think it
> would be important even if they were usable, but for completeness:
>
> The ioctl returns:
> pcie_gen = 1
> pcie_num_lanes = 16
>
> Theoretical bandwidth from those values: 4.0 GB/s
> My DMA test shows this write bandwidth: 3.5 GB/s
> It matches the expectation.
>
> Let's see the devices (there is only 1 GPU Navi21 in the system):
> $ lspci |egrep '(PCI|VGA).*Navi'
> 0a:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 XL
> Upstream Port of PCI Express Switch (rev c3)
> 0b:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 XL
> Downstream Port of PCI Express Switch
> 0c:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] (rev c3)
>
> Let's read sysfs:
>
> $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:0a:00.0/current_link_width
> 16
> $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:0b:00.0/current_link_width
> 16
> $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:0c:00.0/current_link_width
> 16
> $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:0a:00.0/current_link_speed
> 2.5 GT/s PCIe
> $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:0b:00.0/current_link_speed
> 16.0 GT/s PCIe
> $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:0c:00.0/current_link_speed
> 16.0 GT/s PCIe
>
> Problem 1: None of the speed numbers match 4 GB/s.
US bridge = 2.5GT/s means operating at PCIe Gen 1 speed. Total
theoretical bandwidth is then derived based on encoding and total number
of lanes.
> Problem 2: Userspace doesn't know the bus index of the bridges, and it's
> not clear which bridge should be used.
In general, modern ones have this arch= US->DS->EP. US is the one
connected to physical link.
> Problem 3: The PCIe gen number is missing.
Current link speed is based on whether it's Gen1/2/3/4/5.
BTW, your patch makes use of capabilities flags which gives the maximum
supported speed/width by the device. It may not necessarily reflect the
current speed/width negotiated. I guess in NV, this info is already
obtained from PMFW and made available through metrics table.
Thanks,
Lijo
>
> That's all irrelevant because all information should be queryable via
> the INFO ioctl. It doesn't matter what sysfs contains because UMDs
> shouldn't have to open and parse extra files just to read a couple of
> integers.
>
> Marek
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:31 AM Christian König
> <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com
> <mailto:ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sure they can, those files are accessible to everyone.
>
> The massive advantage is that this is standard for all PCIe devices,
> so it should work vendor independent.
>
> Christian.
>
> Am 02.01.23 um 18:55 schrieb Marek Olšák:
>> Userspace drivers can't access sysfs.
>>
>> Marek
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023, 10:54 Christian König
>> <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com
>> <mailto:ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That stuff is already available as current_link_speed and
>> current_link_width in sysfs.
>>
>> I'm a bit reluctant duplicating this information in the IOCTL
>> interface.
>>
>> Christian.
>>
>> Am 30.12.22 um 23:07 schrieb Marek Olšák:
>>> For computing PCIe bandwidth in userspace and troubleshooting
>>> PCIe
>>> bandwidth issues.
>>>
>>> For example, my Navi21 has been limited to PCIe gen 1 and this is
>>> the first time I noticed it after 2 years.
>>>
>>> Note that this intentionally fills a hole and padding
>>> in drm_amdgpu_info_device.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Marek Olšák <marek.olsak@amd.com
>>> <mailto:marek.olsak@amd.com>>
>>>
>>> The patch is attached.
>>>
>>> Marek
>>>
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-04 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-30 22:07 [PATCH 1/2] drm/amdgpu: return the PCIe gen and lanes from the INFO Marek Olšák
2023-01-02 15:54 ` Christian König
2023-01-02 17:55 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-03 8:31 ` Christian König
2023-01-03 22:41 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-04 11:50 ` Lazar, Lijo [this message]
2023-01-04 14:13 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-04 14:18 ` Lazar, Lijo
2023-01-04 15:10 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-04 15:33 ` Lazar, Lijo
2023-01-04 20:17 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-11 20:48 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-11 20:50 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-12 2:39 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-12 11:46 ` Christian König
2023-01-12 11:50 ` Christian König
2023-01-12 16:43 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-13 21:01 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-13 21:20 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-13 23:33 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-13 23:38 ` Marek Olšák
2023-01-16 11:31 ` Christian König
2023-01-17 19:21 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-04 14:15 ` Alex Deucher
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