From: "Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
Uma Shankar <uma.shankar@intel.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Joshua Ashton <joshua@froggi.es>,
Vitaly.Prosyak@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] drm/amd/display: Don't restrict bpc to 8 bpc
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:01:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4417835-13d4-e7b0-b400-b0e488e3b3f9@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57d2c440-a622-bcff-c3b5-e22404ef7eb6@mailbox.org>
On 12/15/22 10:07, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 12/14/22 16:46, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 4:01 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:20:59 +0100
>>> Michel Dänzer <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org> wrote:
>>>> On 12/12/22 19:21, Harry Wentland wrote:
>>>>> This will let us pass kms_hdr.bpc_switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see any good reasons why we still need to
>>>>> limit bpc to 8 bpc and doing so is problematic when
>>>>> we enable HDR.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I remember correctly there might have been some
>>>>> displays out there where the advertised link bandwidth
>>>>> was not large enough to drive the default timing at
>>>>> max bpc. This would leave to an atomic commit/check
>>>>> failure which should really be handled in compositors
>>>>> with some sort of fallback mechanism.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this somehow turns out to still be an issue I
>>>>> suggest we add a module parameter to allow users to
>>>>> limit the max_bpc to a desired value.
>>>>
>>>> While leaving the fallback for user space to handle makes some sense
>>>> in theory, in practice most KMS display servers likely won't handle
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Another issue is that if mode validation is based on the maximum bpc
>>>> value, it may reject modes which would work with lower bpc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What Ville (CC'd) suggested before instead (and what i915 seems to be
>>>> doing already) is that the driver should do mode validation based on
>>>> the *minimum* bpc, and automatically make the effective bpc lower
>>>> than the maximum as needed to make the rest of the atomic state work.
>>>
>>> A driver is always allowed to choose a bpc lower than max_bpc, so it
>>> very well should do so when necessary due to *known* hardware etc.
>>> limitations.
>>>
>>
>> In the amdgpu case, it's more of a preference thing. The driver would
>> enable higher bpcs at the expense of refresh rate and it seemed most
>> users want higher refresh rates than higher bpc.
>
> I wrote the above because I thought that this patch might result in some modes getting pruned because they can't work with the max bpc. However, I see now that cbd14ae7ea93 ("drm/amd/display: Fix incorrectly pruned modes with deep color") should prevent that AFAICT.
>
> The question then is: What happens if user space tries to use a mode which doesn't work with the max bpc? Does the driver automatically lower the effective bpc as needed, or does the atomic commit (check) fail? The latter would seem bad.
Per my previous post in the other sub-thread, cbd14ae7ea93 ("drm/amd/display: Fix incorrectly pruned modes with deep color") seems to do the former. The commit log of this patch should probably be changed to reflect that.
--
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Libre software enthusiast | Mesa and Xwayland developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-16 11:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-12 18:21 [PATCH 00/16] Enable Colorspace connector property in amdgpu Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 01/16] drm/display: Don't block HDR_OUTPUT_METADATA on unknown EOTF Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 02/16] drm/connector: print max_requested_bpc in state debugfs Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 03/16] drm/connector: Drop COLORIMETRY_NO_DATA Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 04/16] drm/connector: Convert DRM_MODE_COLORIMETRY to enum Harry Wentland
2022-12-13 10:39 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-13 16:41 ` Harry Wentland
2022-12-14 8:57 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 05/16] drm/connector: Pull out common create_colorspace_property code Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 06/16] drm/connector: Allow drivers to pass list of supported colorspaces Harry Wentland
2022-12-13 10:20 ` Jani Nikula
2022-12-13 10:23 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-13 16:32 ` Harry Wentland
2022-12-14 8:55 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-14 19:07 ` Harry Wentland
2022-12-14 19:37 ` Alex Deucher
2022-12-13 10:34 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-13 16:36 ` Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 07/16] drm/connector: Print connector colorspace in state debugfs Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 21:04 ` kernel test robot
2022-12-13 2:58 ` kernel test robot
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 08/16] drm/amd/display: Always pass connector_state to stream validation Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 09/16] drm/amd/display: Register Colorspace property for DP and HDMI Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 10/16] drm/amd/display: Set colorspace for HDMI infoframe Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 11/16] drm/amd/display: Send correct DP colorspace infopacket Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 12/16] drm/amd/display: Always set crtcinfo from create_stream_for_sink Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 13/16] drm/amd/display: Add support for explicit BT601_YCC Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 14/16] drm/amd/display: Add debugfs for testing output colorspace Harry Wentland
2022-12-13 10:35 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 15/16] drm/amd/display: Add default case for output_color_space switch Harry Wentland
2022-12-12 18:21 ` [PATCH 16/16] drm/amd/display: Don't restrict bpc to 8 bpc Harry Wentland
2022-12-13 10:48 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-13 17:20 ` Michel Dänzer
2022-12-14 9:01 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-14 15:46 ` Alex Deucher
2022-12-15 9:07 ` Michel Dänzer
2022-12-15 17:30 ` Alex Deucher
2022-12-16 11:01 ` Michel Dänzer [this message]
2022-12-15 9:17 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-12-15 17:33 ` Alex Deucher
2022-12-15 17:42 ` Michel Dänzer
2022-12-15 17:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2022-12-23 19:10 ` Harry Wentland
2023-01-04 11:23 ` Michel Dänzer
2023-01-05 14:45 ` Sebastian Wick
2022-12-13 5:53 ` [PATCH 00/16] Enable Colorspace connector property in amdgpu Joshua Ashton
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