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* Re: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
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@ 2021-11-25  0:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
  2021-11-25  7:32   ` Heiner Kallweit
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2021-11-25  0:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger; +Cc: netdev, ath10k, Heiner Kallweit, Kalle Valo

Adding Kalle and Hainer.

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 14:45:05 -0800 Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:14:53 +0000
> From: bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
> To: stephen@networkplumber.org
> Subject: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
> 
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215129
> 
>             Bug ID: 215129
>            Summary: Linux kernel hangs during power down
>            Product: Networking
>            Version: 2.5
>     Kernel Version: 5.15
>           Hardware: All
>                 OS: Linux
>               Tree: Mainline
>             Status: NEW
>           Severity: normal
>           Priority: P1
>          Component: Other
>           Assignee: stephen@networkplumber.org
>           Reporter: martin.stolpe@gmail.com
>         Regression: No
> 
> Created attachment 299703
>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=299703&action=edit    
> Kernel log after timeout occured
> 
> On my system the kernel is waiting for a task during shutdown which doesn't
> complete.
> 
> The commit which causes this behavior is:
> [f32a213765739f2a1db319346799f130a3d08820] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev
> parent before ethtool ioctl ops
> 
> This bug causes also that the system gets unresponsive after starting Steam:
> https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/2/3194736442566303600/
> 


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* Re: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
  2021-11-25  0:46 ` [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down Jakub Kicinski
@ 2021-11-25  7:32   ` Heiner Kallweit
  2021-11-25 15:49     ` Jakub Kicinski
  2021-11-25 21:11     ` Heiner Kallweit
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2021-11-25  7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakub Kicinski, Jesse Brandeburg, Tony Nguyen, intel-wired-lan,
	Kalle Valo
  Cc: netdev, ath10k, Stephen Hemminger

On 25.11.2021 01:46, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> Adding Kalle and Hainer.
> 
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 14:45:05 -0800 Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:14:53 +0000
>> From: bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
>> To: stephen@networkplumber.org
>> Subject: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
>>
>>
>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215129
>>
>>             Bug ID: 215129
>>            Summary: Linux kernel hangs during power down
>>            Product: Networking
>>            Version: 2.5
>>     Kernel Version: 5.15
>>           Hardware: All
>>                 OS: Linux
>>               Tree: Mainline
>>             Status: NEW
>>           Severity: normal
>>           Priority: P1
>>          Component: Other
>>           Assignee: stephen@networkplumber.org
>>           Reporter: martin.stolpe@gmail.com
>>         Regression: No
>>
>> Created attachment 299703
>>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=299703&action=edit    
>> Kernel log after timeout occured
>>
>> On my system the kernel is waiting for a task during shutdown which doesn't
>> complete.
>>
>> The commit which causes this behavior is:
>> [f32a213765739f2a1db319346799f130a3d08820] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev
>> parent before ethtool ioctl ops
>>
>> This bug causes also that the system gets unresponsive after starting Steam:
>> https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/2/3194736442566303600/
>>
> 

I think the reference to ath10k_pci is misleading, Kalle isn't needed here.
The actual issue is a RTNL deadlock in igb_resume(). See log snippet:

Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  igb_resume+0xff/0x1e0 [igb 21bf6a00cb1f20e9b0e8434f7f8748a0504e93f8]
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  pci_pm_runtime_resume+0xa7/0xd0
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  ? pci_pm_freeze_noirq+0x110/0x110
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  __rpm_callback+0x41/0x120
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  ? pci_pm_freeze_noirq+0x110/0x110
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  rpm_callback+0x35/0x70
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  rpm_resume+0x567/0x810
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  __pm_runtime_resume+0x4a/0x80
Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  dev_ethtool+0xd4/0x2d80

We have at least two places in net core where runtime_resume() is called
under RTNL. This conflicts with the current structure in few Intel drivers
that have something like the following in their resume path.

	rtnl_lock();
	if (!err && netif_running(netdev))
		err = __igb_open(netdev, true);

	if (!err)
		netif_device_attach(netdev);
	rtnl_unlock();

Other drivers don't do this, so it's the question whether it's actually
needed here to take RTNL. Some discussion was started [0], but it ended
w/o tangible result and since then it has been surprisingly quiet.

[0] https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg736880.html

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* Re: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
  2021-11-25  7:32   ` Heiner Kallweit
@ 2021-11-25 15:49     ` Jakub Kicinski
  2021-11-25 21:11     ` Heiner Kallweit
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2021-11-25 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Heiner Kallweit
  Cc: Jesse Brandeburg, Tony Nguyen, intel-wired-lan, netdev, ath10k,
	Stephen Hemminger

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:32:18 +0100 Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> I think the reference to ath10k_pci is misleading, Kalle isn't needed here.
> The actual issue is a RTNL deadlock in igb_resume(). See log snippet:
> 
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  igb_resume+0xff/0x1e0 [igb 21bf6a00cb1f20e9b0e8434f7f8748a0504e93f8]
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  pci_pm_runtime_resume+0xa7/0xd0
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  ? pci_pm_freeze_noirq+0x110/0x110
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  __rpm_callback+0x41/0x120
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  ? pci_pm_freeze_noirq+0x110/0x110
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  rpm_callback+0x35/0x70
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  rpm_resume+0x567/0x810
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  __pm_runtime_resume+0x4a/0x80
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  dev_ethtool+0xd4/0x2d80
> 
> We have at least two places in net core where runtime_resume() is called
> under RTNL. This conflicts with the current structure in few Intel drivers
> that have something like the following in their resume path.
> 
> 	rtnl_lock();
> 	if (!err && netif_running(netdev))
> 		err = __igb_open(netdev, true);
> 
> 	if (!err)
> 		netif_device_attach(netdev);
> 	rtnl_unlock();
> 
> Other drivers don't do this, so it's the question whether it's actually
> needed here to take RTNL. Some discussion was started [0], but it ended
> w/o tangible result and since then it has been surprisingly quiet.
> 
> [0] https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg736880.html

Ah, that makes perfect sense, I didn't see that stack trace. 
Dropping Kalle from CC. Let's hear what Intel folks have to say..

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* Re: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
  2021-11-25  7:32   ` Heiner Kallweit
  2021-11-25 15:49     ` Jakub Kicinski
@ 2021-11-25 21:11     ` Heiner Kallweit
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2021-11-25 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakub Kicinski, Jesse Brandeburg, Tony Nguyen, intel-wired-lan,
	Kalle Valo
  Cc: netdev, ath10k, Stephen Hemminger

On 25.11.2021 08:32, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> On 25.11.2021 01:46, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> Adding Kalle and Hainer.
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 14:45:05 -0800 Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:14:53 +0000
>>> From: bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
>>> To: stephen@networkplumber.org
>>> Subject: [Bug 215129] New: Linux kernel hangs during power down
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215129
>>>
>>>             Bug ID: 215129
>>>            Summary: Linux kernel hangs during power down
>>>            Product: Networking
>>>            Version: 2.5
>>>     Kernel Version: 5.15
>>>           Hardware: All
>>>                 OS: Linux
>>>               Tree: Mainline
>>>             Status: NEW
>>>           Severity: normal
>>>           Priority: P1
>>>          Component: Other
>>>           Assignee: stephen@networkplumber.org
>>>           Reporter: martin.stolpe@gmail.com
>>>         Regression: No
>>>
>>> Created attachment 299703
>>>   --> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=299703&action=edit    
>>> Kernel log after timeout occured
>>>
>>> On my system the kernel is waiting for a task during shutdown which doesn't
>>> complete.
>>>
>>> The commit which causes this behavior is:
>>> [f32a213765739f2a1db319346799f130a3d08820] ethtool: runtime-resume netdev
>>> parent before ethtool ioctl ops
>>>
>>> This bug causes also that the system gets unresponsive after starting Steam:
>>> https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/2/3194736442566303600/
>>>
>>
> 
> I think the reference to ath10k_pci is misleading, Kalle isn't needed here.
> The actual issue is a RTNL deadlock in igb_resume(). See log snippet:
> 
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  igb_resume+0xff/0x1e0 [igb 21bf6a00cb1f20e9b0e8434f7f8748a0504e93f8]
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  pci_pm_runtime_resume+0xa7/0xd0
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  ? pci_pm_freeze_noirq+0x110/0x110
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  __rpm_callback+0x41/0x120
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  ? pci_pm_freeze_noirq+0x110/0x110
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  rpm_callback+0x35/0x70
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  rpm_resume+0x567/0x810
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  __pm_runtime_resume+0x4a/0x80
> Nov 24 18:56:19 MartinsPc kernel:  dev_ethtool+0xd4/0x2d80
> 
> We have at least two places in net core where runtime_resume() is called
> under RTNL. This conflicts with the current structure in few Intel drivers
> that have something like the following in their resume path.
> 
> 	rtnl_lock();
> 	if (!err && netif_running(netdev))
> 		err = __igb_open(netdev, true);
> 
> 	if (!err)
> 		netif_device_attach(netdev);
> 	rtnl_unlock();
> 
> Other drivers don't do this, so it's the question whether it's actually
> needed here to take RTNL. Some discussion was started [0], but it ended
> w/o tangible result and since then it has been surprisingly quiet.
> 
> [0] https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg736880.html
> 

I think the problem with runtime_resume() taking RTNL could also hit
the driver internally. See following call chain: If this would ever
be called when the device is runtime-suspended, then a similar
deadlock would occur.

__dev_open()    - called with RTNL held
  igb_open()
    __igb_open()   - arg resuming is false
      if (!resuming)
        pm_runtime_get_sync(&pdev->dev);
          igb_resume()
            rtnl_lock()

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