[B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Marek Lindner]

Hi,

even if the news is still some days old - its worth mentioning: 
batman-advanced is now available in Debian! 

The packages are available through your favorite dpkg frontend (apt-get, 
aptitude, ...) using the unstable repositories. To follow the package 
development you can visit the following pages:

http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-source
http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-battool

batman-adv-source contains the source code and can be compiled for your kernel
using module-assistant [1]. batman-adv-battool contains the battool which
provides ping, traceroute and other tools for the batman-adv network.

Big thanks to Sven Eckelmann, Simon Wunderlich and Holger Levsen for their 
work on these packages. :)

BTW, you also can find the current batman stable (0.3) in the lenny and 
unstable repositories. Here the respective package pages:

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/batmand
http://packages.debian.org/sid/batmand


Regards,
Marek


[1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/module-assistant

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Outback Dingo]

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any good docs on configuring batman-adv for atheros ?

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> even if the news is still some days old - its worth mentioning:
> batman-advanced is now available in Debian!
>
> The packages are available through your favorite dpkg frontend (apt-get,
> aptitude, ...) using the unstable repositories. To follow the package
> development you can visit the following pages:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-source
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-battool
>
> batman-adv-source contains the source code and can be compiled for your
> kernel
> using module-assistant [1]. batman-adv-battool contains the battool which
> provides ping, traceroute and other tools for the batman-adv network.
>
> Big thanks to Sven Eckelmann, Simon Wunderlich and Holger Levsen for their
> work on these packages. :)
>
> BTW, you also can find the current batman stable (0.3) in the lenny and
> unstable repositories. Here the respective package pages:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/batmand
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/batmand
>
>
> Regards,
> Marek
>
>
> [1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/module-assistant
>
>
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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Marek Lindner]

On Monday 17 November 2008 00:06:37 Outback Dingo wrote:
> any good docs on configuring batman-adv for atheros ?

We are writing it but it takes time.  :-)


Here the short intro:

Batman advanced is not aware of the Atheros driver. On every hardware it runs 
in the same way.

Load the module -> modprobe batman-adv-core

In /proc/net/batman-adv/ you will find the files to tweak batman. E.g. give it a 
device to operate on -> echo eth0 > /proc/net/batman-adv/interface

deactivate batman-adv -> echo "" > /proc/net/batman-adv/interface

The other files in that folder should be self explanatory. If not come back and 
ask us.

Regards,
Marek

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Simon Wunderlich]

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The README also applies to Atheros hardware: 

https://dev.open-mesh.net/batman/file/trunk/batman-adv-kernelland/README

regards,
	Simon

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:06:37PM +0700, Outback Dingo wrote:
> any good docs on configuring batman-adv for atheros ?
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > even if the news is still some days old - its worth mentioning:
> > batman-advanced is now available in Debian!
> >
> > The packages are available through your favorite dpkg frontend (apt-get,
> > aptitude, ...) using the unstable repositories. To follow the package
> > development you can visit the following pages:
> >
> > http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-source
> > http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-battool
> >
> > batman-adv-source contains the source code and can be compiled for your
> > kernel
> > using module-assistant [1]. batman-adv-battool contains the battool which
> > provides ping, traceroute and other tools for the batman-adv network.
> >
> > Big thanks to Sven Eckelmann, Simon Wunderlich and Holger Levsen for their
> > work on these packages. :)
> >
> > BTW, you also can find the current batman stable (0.3) in the lenny and
> > unstable repositories. Here the respective package pages:
> >
> > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/batmand
> > http://packages.debian.org/sid/batmand
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marek
> >
> >
> > [1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/module-assistant
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > B.A.T.M.A.N@open-mesh.net
> > https://list.open-mesh.net/mm/listinfo/b.a.t.m.a.n
> >

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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Outback Dingo]

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ok lastly, it seems possible its very similiar config to bmxd which is what
has been running, though layer 3, im trying to get layer 2 kernel routing
going
originally i used batgat but yet it was problematic, so its safe to say i
could go batman-adv and drop bmxd? as i belive one is not compatible with
the
other in the mesh

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>wrote:

> On Monday 17 November 2008 00:06:37 Outback Dingo wrote:
> > any good docs on configuring batman-adv for atheros ?
>
> We are writing it but it takes time.  :-)
>
>
> Here the short intro:
>
> Batman advanced is not aware of the Atheros driver. On every hardware it
> runs
> in the same way.
>
> Load the module -> modprobe batman-adv-core
>
> In /proc/net/batman-adv/ you will find the files to tweak batman. E.g. give
> it a
> device to operate on -> echo eth0 > /proc/net/batman-adv/interface
>
> deactivate batman-adv -> echo "" > /proc/net/batman-adv/interface
>
> The other files in that folder should be self explanatory. If not come back
> and
> ask us.
>
> Regards,
> Marek
>
> _______________________________________________
> B.A.T.M.A.N mailing list
> B.A.T.M.A.N@open-mesh.net
> https://list.open-mesh.net/mm/listinfo/b.a.t.m.a.n
>

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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Outback Dingo]

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LOL it seriously cant be this easy :)

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Simon Wunderlich <
simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:

> The README also applies to Atheros hardware:
>
> https://dev.open-mesh.net/batman/file/trunk/batman-adv-kernelland/README
>
> regards,
>         Simon
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:06:37PM +0700, Outback Dingo wrote:
> > any good docs on configuring batman-adv for atheros ?
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > even if the news is still some days old - its worth mentioning:
> > > batman-advanced is now available in Debian!
> > >
> > > The packages are available through your favorite dpkg frontend
> (apt-get,
> > > aptitude, ...) using the unstable repositories. To follow the package
> > > development you can visit the following pages:
> > >
> > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-source
> > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/batman-adv-battool
> > >
> > > batman-adv-source contains the source code and can be compiled for your
> > > kernel
> > > using module-assistant [1]. batman-adv-battool contains the battool
> which
> > > provides ping, traceroute and other tools for the batman-adv network.
> > >
> > > Big thanks to Sven Eckelmann, Simon Wunderlich and Holger Levsen for
> their
> > > work on these packages. :)
> > >
> > > BTW, you also can find the current batman stable (0.3) in the lenny and
> > > unstable repositories. Here the respective package pages:
> > >
> > > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/batmand
> > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/batmand
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marek
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/module-assistant
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > B.A.T.M.A.N@open-mesh.net
> > > https://list.open-mesh.net/mm/listinfo/b.a.t.m.a.n
> > >
>
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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Marek Lindner]

On Monday 17 November 2008 00:32:59 Outback Dingo wrote:
> LOL it seriously cant be this easy :)

Not sure what you mean:  :-)
- the path to the "getting started" documentation
- the difficulty level of batman advanced

Regards,
Marek

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Simon Wunderlich]

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Hey,

yep, bmxd/batman0.3 and batman-adv are both not compatible to each
other. 

You should know that batman-adv does not have special gateway support
like the layer 3 batman versions. It can be considered as a big switch
where every node is one virtual hop away. You can therefore configure it
like your home LAN: install DHCP on your router, and that's it. If you
have multiple gateways, you might consider multiple DHCP servers, or 
something else ... depending on your scenario. :)

regards,
	Simon

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:30:06PM +0700, Outback Dingo wrote:
> ok lastly, it seems possible its very similiar config to bmxd which is what
> has been running, though layer 3, im trying to get layer 2 kernel routing
> going
> originally i used batgat but yet it was problematic, so its safe to say i
> could go batman-adv and drop bmxd? as i belive one is not compatible with
> the
> other in the mesh
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 17 November 2008 00:06:37 Outback Dingo wrote:
> > > any good docs on configuring batman-adv for atheros ?
> >
> > We are writing it but it takes time.  :-)
> >
> >
> > Here the short intro:
> >
> > Batman advanced is not aware of the Atheros driver. On every hardware it
> > runs
> > in the same way.
> >
> > Load the module -> modprobe batman-adv-core
> >
> > In /proc/net/batman-adv/ you will find the files to tweak batman. E.g. give
> > it a
> > device to operate on -> echo eth0 > /proc/net/batman-adv/interface
> >
> > deactivate batman-adv -> echo "" > /proc/net/batman-adv/interface
> >
> > The other files in that folder should be self explanatory. If not come back
> > and
> > ask us.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marek
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > B.A.T.M.A.N mailing list
> > B.A.T.M.A.N@open-mesh.net
> > https://list.open-mesh.net/mm/listinfo/b.a.t.m.a.n
> >

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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Marek Lindner]

On Monday 17 November 2008 00:48:31 Simon Wunderlich wrote:
> yep, bmxd/batman0.3 and batman-adv are both not compatible to each
> other.

Let me try to be clear at this point: You can run batman and batman-adv at the 
same time - no problem here. But you can't expect a batman node and a batman-
adv node to talk to each other. Batman is not aware of batman-adv and vice 
versa because they operate on different layers.

Regards,
Marek

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Outback Dingo]

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ok, perfectly clear, one or the other

now last question, there is a batman-adv kernel module and a batman-adv
userland
am i to assume i dont need the userland if running the kernel mod or are
both required

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>wrote:

> On Monday 17 November 2008 00:48:31 Simon Wunderlich wrote:
> > yep, bmxd/batman0.3 and batman-adv are both not compatible to each
> > other.
>
> Let me try to be clear at this point: You can run batman and batman-adv at
> the
> same time - no problem here. But you can't expect a batman node and a
> batman-
> adv node to talk to each other. Batman is not aware of batman-adv and vice
> versa because they operate on different layers.
>
> Regards,
> Marek
>
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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Marek Lindner]

On Monday 17 November 2008 01:22:24 Outback Dingo wrote:
> ok, perfectly clear, one or the other

Good.  :-)


> now last question, there is a batman-adv kernel module and a batman-adv
> userland
> am i to assume i dont need the userland if running the kernel mod or are
> both required

Correct - you only need one of them. At the moment the kernel implementation 
is a bit ahead compared to user space. I hope in the coming weeks I will find 
the time to update the user space branch.

Regards,
Marek

Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Outback Dingo]

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whats tells batmand-advanced its actually an internet gateway ???

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Marek Lindner <lindner_marek@yahoo.de>wrote:

> On Monday 17 November 2008 01:22:24 Outback Dingo wrote:
> > ok, perfectly clear, one or the other
>
> Good.  :-)
>
>
> > now last question, there is a batman-adv kernel module and a batman-adv
> > userland
> > am i to assume i dont need the userland if running the kernel mod or are
> > both required
>
> Correct - you only need one of them. At the moment the kernel
> implementation
> is a bit ahead compared to user space. I hope in the coming weeks I will
> find
> the time to update the user space branch.
>
> Regards,
> Marek
>
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Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] batman-adv debian announcement

[Marek Lindner]

On Monday 17 November 2008 04:21:22 Outback Dingo wrote:
> whats tells batmand-advanced its actually an internet gateway ???

Here is what Simon wrote some mails ago:  :-)

You should know that batman-adv does not have special gateway support
like the layer 3 batman versions. It can be considered as a big switch
where every node is one virtual hop away. You can therefore configure it
like your home LAN: install DHCP on your router, and that's it. If you
have multiple gateways, you might consider multiple DHCP servers, or 
something else ... depending on your scenario. :)