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From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Anton Protopopov <aspsk@isovalent.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] libbpf: BPF Static Keys support
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 14:52:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <030c3d51-ddf2-4f36-8e08-09d553b452a2@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3589068d-7787-4584-8911-e57c380dd09b@linux.dev>


On 12/11/23 1:51 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>
> On 12/11/23 9:31 AM, Anton Protopopov wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 10:32:42PM -0800, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>> On 12/9/23 9:18 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:05 PM Yonghong Song 
>>>> <yonghong.song@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/8/23 8:25 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 8:15 PM Yonghong Song 
>>>>>> <yonghong.song@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/8/23 8:05 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 2:04 PM Andrii Nakryiko
>>>>>>>> <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I feel like embedding some sort of ID inside the instruction 
>>>>>>>>> is very..
>>>>>>>>> unusual, shall we say?
>>>>>>>> yeah. no magic numbers inside insns pls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't like JA_CFG name, since I read CFG as control flow graph,
>>>>>>>> while you probably meant CFG as configurable.
>>>>>>>> How about BPF_JA_OR_NOP ?
>>>>>>>> Then in combination with BPF_JMP or BPF_JMP32 modifier
>>>>>>>> the insn->off|imm will be used.
>>>>>>>> 1st bit in src_reg can indicate the default action: nop or jmp.
>>>>>>>> In asm it may look like asm("goto_or_nop +5")
>>>>>>> How does the C source code looks like in order to generate
>>>>>>> BPF_JA_OR_NOP insn? Any source examples?
>>>>>> It will be in inline asm only. The address of that insn will
>>>>>> be taken either via && or via asm (".long %l[label]").
>>>>>>    From llvm pov both should go through the same relo creation 
>>>>>> logic. I hope :)
>>>>> A hack in llvm below with an example, could you check whether the C
>>>>> syntax and object dump result
>>>>> is what you want to see?
[...]
>>>> Thank you for the ultra quick llvm diff!
>>>> I was thinking of burning the new 0xE opcode for it,
>>>> but you're right. It's a flavor of existing JA insn and it's indeed
>>>> better to just use src_reg=1 bit to indicate so.
>>> Right, using src_reg to indicate a new flavor of JA insn sounds
>>> a good idea. My previously-used 'imm' field is a pure hack.
>>>
>>>> We probably need to use the 2nd bit of src_reg to indicate its 
>>>> default state
>>>> (jmp or fallthrough).
>>> Good point.
>>>
>>>>>            asm volatile goto ("r0 = 0; \
>>>>>                                goto_or_nop %l[label]; \
>>>>>                                r2 = 2; \
>>>>>                                r3 = 3; \
>>>> Not sure how to represent the default state in assembly though.
>>>> "goto_or_nop" defaults to goto
>>>> "nop_or_goto" default to nop
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Do we need "gotol" for imm32 or will it be automatic?
>>> It won't be automatic.
>>>
>>> At the end of this email, I will show the new change
>>> to have gotol_or_nop and nop_or_gotol insn and an example
>> Thanks a lot Yonghong! May I ask you to send a full patch for LLVM
>> (with gotol) so that I can test it?
>
> Okay, I will send a RFC patch to llvm-project so you can do 'git fetch'
> to get the patch into your local llvm-project repo and build a compiler
> to test.

Okay, the following is the llvm-project diff:

https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/75110

I added a label in inline asm like below:
|asm volatile goto ("r0 = 0; \ static_key_loc_1: \ gotol_or_nop 
%l[label]; \ r2 = 2; \ r3 = 3; \ ":: : "r0", "r2", "r3" :label); to 
identify the location of a gotol_or_nop/nop_or_gotol insn and the label '||||static_key_loc_1|' is in ELF symbol table
can be easily searched and validated (the location is
a gotol_or_nop/nop_or_gotol insn).

>
>>
>> Overall, I think that JA + flags in SRC_REG is indeed better than a
>> new instruction, as a new code is not used.
>>
>> This looks for me that two bits aren't enough, and the third is
>> required, as the second bit seems to be overloaded:
>>
>>    * bit 1 indicates that this is a "JA_MAYBE"
>>    * bit 2 indicates a jump or nop (i.e., the current state)
>>
>> However, we also need another bit which indicates what to do with the
>> instruction when we issue [an abstract] command
>>
>>    flip_branch_on_or_off(branch, 0/1)
>>
>> Without this information (and in the absense of external meta-data on
>> how to patch the branch) we can't determine what a given (BPF, not
>> jitted) program currently does. For example, if we issue
>>
>>    flip_branch_on_or_off(branch, 0)
>>
>> then we can't reflect this in the xlated program by setting the second
>> bit to jmp/off. Again, JITted program is fine, but it will be
>> desynchronized from xlated in term of logic (some instructions will be
>> mapped as NOP -> x86_JUMP, others as NOP -> x86_NOP).
>>
>> In my original patch we kept this triplet as
>>
>>    (offset to indicate a "special jump", JA+0/JA+OFF, Normal/Inverse)
> [...]
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-11 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 14:10 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] BPF Static Keys Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] bpf: extract bpf_prog_bind_map logic into an inline helper Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] bpf: rename and export a struct definition Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] bpf: adjust functions offsets when patching progs Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] bpf: implement BPF Static Keys support Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] bpf: x86: implement static keys support Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] libbpf: BPF Static Keys support Anton Protopopov
2023-12-08  3:45   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-08 16:19     ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-08 22:04       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-12-08 23:07         ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-12-09  4:07           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-09  4:05         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-09  4:15           ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-09  4:25             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-09  5:04               ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-09 17:18                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-10  6:32                   ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-10 10:30                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-12-11  3:33                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-11 18:49                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-12-12 10:25                         ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-14  2:15                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-14  3:04                             ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-14 16:56                               ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-12-14 16:33                             ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-11 17:31                     ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-11 19:08                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-12  9:06                         ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-11 21:51                       ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-11 22:52                         ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] selftests/bpf: Add tests for BPF Static Keys Anton Protopopov

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