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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Anton Protopopov <aspsk@isovalent.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] libbpf: BPF Static Keys support
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 01:07:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e75bdce562e1b27dcaa3a7ede74339d23c3fca9.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4Bzai9X2xQGjEOZvkSkx7ZB9CSSk4oTxoksTVSBoEvR4UsA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2023-12-08 at 14:04 -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
[...]
> > However, if this is the only API we provide, then this makes user's life
> > hard, as they will have to keep track of ids, and programs used, and
> > mapping from "global" id to local ids for each program (when multiple
> > programs use the same static key, which is desirable). If we keep the
> > higher-level "map API", then this simplifies user's life: on a program load
> > a user can send a list of (local_id -> map) mappings, and then toggle all
> > the branches controlled by "a [global] static key" by either
> > 
> >     bpf(MAP_UPDATE_ELEM, map, value)
> > 
> > or
> > 
> >     kfunc bpf_static_key_set(map, value)
> > 
> > whatever is more useful. (I think that keeping the bpf(2) userspace API is
> > worth doing it, as otherwise this, again, makes life harder: users would
> > have to recompile/update iterator programs if new programs using a static
> > key are added, etc.)
> > 
> > Libbpf can simplify life even more by automatically allocating local ids
> > and passing mappings to kernel for a program from the
> > `bpf_static_branch_{unlikely,likely}(&map)`, so that users don't ever thing
> > about this, if don't want to. Again, no relocations are required here.
> > 
> > So, to summarize:
> > 
> >   * A new instruction BPF_JA_CFG[ID,FLAGS,OFFSET] where ID is local to the
> >     program, FLAGS is 0/1 for normal/inverse branches
> > 
> 
> +1 for a dedicated instruction

fwiw, if relocations are used instead of IDs the new instruction does
not have to be a control flow. It might be a mov that sets target
register to a value that verifier treats as unknown. At runtime this
mov could be patched to assign different values. Granted it would be
three instructions:

  mov rax, 0;
  cmp rax, 0;
  je ...
  
instead of one, but I don't believe there would noticeable performance
difference. On a plus side: even simpler verification, likely/unlikely
for free, no need to track if branch is inverted.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 14:10 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] BPF Static Keys Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] bpf: extract bpf_prog_bind_map logic into an inline helper Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] bpf: rename and export a struct definition Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] bpf: adjust functions offsets when patching progs Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] bpf: implement BPF Static Keys support Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] bpf: x86: implement static keys support Anton Protopopov
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] libbpf: BPF Static Keys support Anton Protopopov
2023-12-08  3:45   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-08 16:19     ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-08 22:04       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-12-08 23:07         ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2023-12-09  4:07           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-09  4:05         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-09  4:15           ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-09  4:25             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-09  5:04               ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-09 17:18                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-10  6:32                   ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-10 10:30                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-12-11  3:33                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-11 18:49                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-12-12 10:25                         ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-14  2:15                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-14  3:04                             ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-14 16:56                               ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-12-14 16:33                             ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-11 17:31                     ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-11 19:08                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-12-12  9:06                         ` Anton Protopopov
2023-12-11 21:51                       ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-11 22:52                         ` Yonghong Song
2023-12-06 14:10 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] selftests/bpf: Add tests for BPF Static Keys Anton Protopopov

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