From: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>
To: Dave Thaler <dthaler1968=40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, bpf@ietf.org,
Dave Thaler <dthaler1968@gmail.com>,
Dave Thaler <dthaler1968@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bpf] [PATCH bpf-next v2] bpf, docs: Address comments from IETF Area Directors
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:43:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240623154315.GA52273@maniforge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240623150453.10613-1-dthaler1968@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 08:04:53AM -0700, Dave Thaler wrote:
> This patch does the following to address IETF feedback:
>
> * Remove mention of "program type" and reference future
> docs (and mention platform-specific docs exist) for
> helper functions and BTF. Addresses Roman Danyliw's
> comments based on GENART review from Ines Robles [0].
>
> * Add reference for endianness as requested by John
> Scudder [1].
>
> * Added bit numbers to top of 32-bit wide format diagrams
> as requested by Paul Wouters [2].
>
> * Added more text about why BPF doesn't stand for anything, based
> on text from ebpf.io [3], as requested by Eric Vyncke and
> Gunter Van de Velde [4].
>
> * Replaced "htobe16" (and similar) and the direction-specific
> description with just "be16" (and similar) and a direction-agnostic
> description, to match the direction-agnostic description in
> the Byteswap Instructions section. Based on feedback from Eric
> Vyncke [5].
>
> [0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/DvDgDWOiwk05OyNlWlAmELZFPlM/
>
> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/eKNXpU4jCLjsbZDSw8LjI29M3tM/
>
> [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/hGk8HkYxeZTpdu9qW_MvbGKj7WU/
>
> [3] https://ebpf.io/what-is-ebpf/#what-do-ebpf-and-bpf-stand-for
>
> [4] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/i93lzdN3ewnzzS_JMbinCIYxAIU/
>
> [5] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/KBWXbMeDcSrq4vsKR_KkBbV6hI4/
>
> ---
>
> 1->2: Addressed nits from David Vernet
>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Thaler <dthaler1968@googlemail.com>
Acked-by: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>
> ---
> .../bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst | 80 +++++++++++--------
> 1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst b/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst
> index 398f27bab..7e636299a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst
> @@ -5,12 +5,19 @@
> BPF Instruction Set Architecture (ISA)
> ======================================
>
> -eBPF (which is no longer an acronym for anything), also commonly
> +eBPF, also commonly
> referred to as BPF, is a technology with origins in the Linux kernel
> that can run untrusted programs in a privileged context such as an
> operating system kernel. This document specifies the BPF instruction
> set architecture (ISA).
>
> +As a historical note, BPF originally stood for Berkeley Packet Filter,
> +but now that it can do so much more than packet filtering, the acronym
> +no longer makes sense. BPF is now considered a standalone term that
> +does not stand for anything. The original BPF is sometimes referred to
> +as cBPF (classic BPF) to distinguish it from the now widely deployed
> +eBPF (extended BPF).
> +
> Documentation conventions
> =========================
>
> @@ -18,7 +25,7 @@ The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
> "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
> "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in
> BCP 14 `<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119>`_
> -`RFC8174 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>`_
> +`<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>`_
> when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
>
> For brevity and consistency, this document refers to families
> @@ -59,24 +66,18 @@ numbers.
>
> Functions
> ---------
> -* htobe16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 16-bit number in big-endian
> - format.
> -* htobe32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 32-bit number in big-endian
> - format.
> -* htobe64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 64-bit number in big-endian
> - format.
> -* htole16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 16-bit number in little-endian
> - format.
> -* htole32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 32-bit number in little-endian
> - format.
> -* htole64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 64-bit number in little-endian
> - format.
> +
> +The following byteswap functions are direction-agnostic. That is,
> +the same function is used for conversion in either direction discussed
> +below.
> +
> +* be16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and big-endian
> + (`IEN137 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien137.txt>`_) byte order.
> +* be32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and big-endian byte order.
> +* be64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and big-endian byte order.
> * bswap16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number in either big- or little-endian
> format and returns the equivalent number with the same bit width but
> opposite endianness.
> @@ -86,7 +87,12 @@ Functions
> * bswap64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number in either big- or little-endian
> format and returns the equivalent number with the same bit width but
> opposite endianness.
> -
> +* le16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and little-endian byte order.
> +* le32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and little-endian byte order.
> +* le64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and little-endian byte order.
>
> Definitions
> -----------
> @@ -441,8 +447,8 @@ and MUST be set to 0.
> ===== ======== ===== =================================================
> class source value description
> ===== ======== ===== =================================================
> - ALU TO_LE 0 convert between host byte order and little endian
> - ALU TO_BE 1 convert between host byte order and big endian
> + ALU LE 0 convert between host byte order and little endian
> + ALU BE 1 convert between host byte order and big endian
> ALU64 Reserved 0 do byte swap unconditionally
> ===== ======== ===== =================================================
>
> @@ -453,19 +459,19 @@ conformance group.
>
> Examples:
>
> -``{END, TO_LE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
> +``{END, LE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
>
> - dst = htole16(dst)
> - dst = htole32(dst)
> - dst = htole64(dst)
> + dst = le16(dst)
> + dst = le32(dst)
> + dst = le64(dst)
>
> -``{END, TO_BE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
> +``{END, BE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
>
> - dst = htobe16(dst)
> - dst = htobe32(dst)
> - dst = htobe64(dst)
> + dst = be16(dst)
> + dst = be32(dst)
> + dst = be64(dst)
>
> -``{END, TO_LE, ALU64}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
> +``{END, TO, ALU64}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
>
> dst = bswap16(dst)
> dst = bswap32(dst)
> @@ -545,13 +551,17 @@ Helper functions are a concept whereby BPF programs can call into a
> set of function calls exposed by the underlying platform.
>
> Historically, each helper function was identified by a static ID
> -encoded in the 'imm' field. The available helper functions may differ
> -for each program type, but static IDs are unique across all program types.
> +encoded in the 'imm' field. Further documentation of helper functions
> +is outside the scope of this document and standardization is left for
> +future work, but use is widely deployed and more information can be
> +found in platform-specific documentation (e.g., Linux kernel documentation).
>
> Platforms that support the BPF Type Format (BTF) support identifying
> a helper function by a BTF ID encoded in the 'imm' field, where the BTF ID
> identifies the helper name and type. Further documentation of BTF
> -is outside the scope of this document and is left for future work.
> +is outside the scope of this document and standardization is left for
> +future work, but use is widely deployed and more information can be
> +found in platform-specific documentation (e.g., Linux kernel documentation).
>
> Program-local functions
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> --
> 2.40.1
>
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From: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>
To: Dave Thaler <dthaler1968=40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, bpf@ietf.org,
Dave Thaler <dthaler1968@gmail.com>,
Dave Thaler <dthaler1968@googlemail.com>
Subject: [Bpf] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2] bpf, docs: Address comments from IETF Area Directors
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:43:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240623154315.GA52273@maniforge> (raw)
Message-ID: <20240623154315.hAYS8Hr_XSiVEvGArGpGQSzyH9HpREEpEXEWcUOOflk@z> (raw)
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 08:04:53AM -0700, Dave Thaler wrote:
> This patch does the following to address IETF feedback:
>
> * Remove mention of "program type" and reference future
> docs (and mention platform-specific docs exist) for
> helper functions and BTF. Addresses Roman Danyliw's
> comments based on GENART review from Ines Robles [0].
>
> * Add reference for endianness as requested by John
> Scudder [1].
>
> * Added bit numbers to top of 32-bit wide format diagrams
> as requested by Paul Wouters [2].
>
> * Added more text about why BPF doesn't stand for anything, based
> on text from ebpf.io [3], as requested by Eric Vyncke and
> Gunter Van de Velde [4].
>
> * Replaced "htobe16" (and similar) and the direction-specific
> description with just "be16" (and similar) and a direction-agnostic
> description, to match the direction-agnostic description in
> the Byteswap Instructions section. Based on feedback from Eric
> Vyncke [5].
>
> [0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/DvDgDWOiwk05OyNlWlAmELZFPlM/
>
> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/eKNXpU4jCLjsbZDSw8LjI29M3tM/
>
> [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/hGk8HkYxeZTpdu9qW_MvbGKj7WU/
>
> [3] https://ebpf.io/what-is-ebpf/#what-do-ebpf-and-bpf-stand-for
>
> [4] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/i93lzdN3ewnzzS_JMbinCIYxAIU/
>
> [5] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bpf/KBWXbMeDcSrq4vsKR_KkBbV6hI4/
>
> ---
>
> 1->2: Addressed nits from David Vernet
>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Thaler <dthaler1968@googlemail.com>
Acked-by: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>
> ---
> .../bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst | 80 +++++++++++--------
> 1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst b/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst
> index 398f27bab..7e636299a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/bpf/standardization/instruction-set.rst
> @@ -5,12 +5,19 @@
> BPF Instruction Set Architecture (ISA)
> ======================================
>
> -eBPF (which is no longer an acronym for anything), also commonly
> +eBPF, also commonly
> referred to as BPF, is a technology with origins in the Linux kernel
> that can run untrusted programs in a privileged context such as an
> operating system kernel. This document specifies the BPF instruction
> set architecture (ISA).
>
> +As a historical note, BPF originally stood for Berkeley Packet Filter,
> +but now that it can do so much more than packet filtering, the acronym
> +no longer makes sense. BPF is now considered a standalone term that
> +does not stand for anything. The original BPF is sometimes referred to
> +as cBPF (classic BPF) to distinguish it from the now widely deployed
> +eBPF (extended BPF).
> +
> Documentation conventions
> =========================
>
> @@ -18,7 +25,7 @@ The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
> "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
> "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in
> BCP 14 `<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119>`_
> -`RFC8174 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>`_
> +`<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>`_
> when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
>
> For brevity and consistency, this document refers to families
> @@ -59,24 +66,18 @@ numbers.
>
> Functions
> ---------
> -* htobe16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 16-bit number in big-endian
> - format.
> -* htobe32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 32-bit number in big-endian
> - format.
> -* htobe64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 64-bit number in big-endian
> - format.
> -* htole16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 16-bit number in little-endian
> - format.
> -* htole32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 32-bit number in little-endian
> - format.
> -* htole64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number in host-endian format and
> - returns the equivalent number as an unsigned 64-bit number in little-endian
> - format.
> +
> +The following byteswap functions are direction-agnostic. That is,
> +the same function is used for conversion in either direction discussed
> +below.
> +
> +* be16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and big-endian
> + (`IEN137 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien137.txt>`_) byte order.
> +* be32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and big-endian byte order.
> +* be64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and big-endian byte order.
> * bswap16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number in either big- or little-endian
> format and returns the equivalent number with the same bit width but
> opposite endianness.
> @@ -86,7 +87,12 @@ Functions
> * bswap64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number in either big- or little-endian
> format and returns the equivalent number with the same bit width but
> opposite endianness.
> -
> +* le16: Takes an unsigned 16-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and little-endian byte order.
> +* le32: Takes an unsigned 32-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and little-endian byte order.
> +* le64: Takes an unsigned 64-bit number and converts it between
> + host byte order and little-endian byte order.
>
> Definitions
> -----------
> @@ -441,8 +447,8 @@ and MUST be set to 0.
> ===== ======== ===== =================================================
> class source value description
> ===== ======== ===== =================================================
> - ALU TO_LE 0 convert between host byte order and little endian
> - ALU TO_BE 1 convert between host byte order and big endian
> + ALU LE 0 convert between host byte order and little endian
> + ALU BE 1 convert between host byte order and big endian
> ALU64 Reserved 0 do byte swap unconditionally
> ===== ======== ===== =================================================
>
> @@ -453,19 +459,19 @@ conformance group.
>
> Examples:
>
> -``{END, TO_LE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
> +``{END, LE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
>
> - dst = htole16(dst)
> - dst = htole32(dst)
> - dst = htole64(dst)
> + dst = le16(dst)
> + dst = le32(dst)
> + dst = le64(dst)
>
> -``{END, TO_BE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
> +``{END, BE, ALU}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
>
> - dst = htobe16(dst)
> - dst = htobe32(dst)
> - dst = htobe64(dst)
> + dst = be16(dst)
> + dst = be32(dst)
> + dst = be64(dst)
>
> -``{END, TO_LE, ALU64}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
> +``{END, TO, ALU64}`` with 'imm' = 16/32/64 means::
>
> dst = bswap16(dst)
> dst = bswap32(dst)
> @@ -545,13 +551,17 @@ Helper functions are a concept whereby BPF programs can call into a
> set of function calls exposed by the underlying platform.
>
> Historically, each helper function was identified by a static ID
> -encoded in the 'imm' field. The available helper functions may differ
> -for each program type, but static IDs are unique across all program types.
> +encoded in the 'imm' field. Further documentation of helper functions
> +is outside the scope of this document and standardization is left for
> +future work, but use is widely deployed and more information can be
> +found in platform-specific documentation (e.g., Linux kernel documentation).
>
> Platforms that support the BPF Type Format (BTF) support identifying
> a helper function by a BTF ID encoded in the 'imm' field, where the BTF ID
> identifies the helper name and type. Further documentation of BTF
> -is outside the scope of this document and is left for future work.
> +is outside the scope of this document and standardization is left for
> +future work, but use is widely deployed and more information can be
> +found in platform-specific documentation (e.g., Linux kernel documentation).
>
> Program-local functions
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> --
> 2.40.1
>
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