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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	kernel-team@fb.com,  Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Track aligned st store as imprecise spilled registers
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:05:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60cd23a09c8fe6ea45af151b6e806e456a0b120c.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60c5be25-5c35-4e47-948b-66cc8b1b4feb@linux.dev>

On Mon, 2024-01-08 at 11:51 -0800, Yonghong Song wrote:
[...]
> > In case if check_stack_read_var_off() would be modified to check not
> > only for STACK_ZERO, but also for zero spills, I think that all such
> > spills would have to be marked precise at the time of read,
> > as backtracking would not be able to find those later.
> 
> I don't understand the above. If the code pattern looks like
>    r1 = ...; /* r1 range [-32, -16);
>    *(u8 *)(r10 + r1) = r2;
>    ...
>    r3 = *(u8 *)(r10 + r1);
>    r3 needs to be marked as precise.
> 
> Conservatively marking r2 in '*(u8 *)(r10 + r1) = r2' as precise
> should be the correct way to do.
> 
> Or you are thinking even more complex code pattern like
>    *(u64 *)(r10 - 32) = r4;
>    *(u64 *)(r10 - 24) = r5;
>    ...
>    r1 = ...; /* r1 range [-32, -16) */
>    r3 = *(u8 *)(r10 + r1);
>    r3 needs to be marked as precise.
> 
> In this case, we should proactively mark r4 and r5 as precise.
> But currently we did not do it, right?

Yes, I'm thinking about the latter scenario.
There would be zero spills for fp-32 and fp-24.
If check_stack_read_var_off() is modified to handle zero spills,
then it would conclude that r3 is zero.
But if r3 is later marked precise, there would be no info for
backtracking to mark fp-32, fp-24, r4, r5 as precise:
- either backtracking info would have to be supplemented with a list
  of stack locations that were spilled zeros at time of
  check_stack_read_var_off();
- or check_stack_read_var_off() would need to conservatively mark
  all spilled zeros as precise.

Nothing like that is needed now, because check_stack_read_var_off()
would return unbound scalar for r3 upon seeing zero spill.

> I think this later case is a very unlikely case.

But it is possible and verifier has to be conservative.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-08 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-03 23:26 [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Track aligned st store as imprecise spilled registers Yonghong Song
2024-01-03 23:26 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add a selftest with not-8-byte aligned BPF_ST Yonghong Song
2024-01-04 16:37 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Track aligned st store as imprecise spilled registers Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 17:13   ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-04 18:43     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 18:30 ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 20:12   ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-04 21:10     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 23:09       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-04 23:29         ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-05  1:05           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-05  7:14             ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-05  8:10               ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-05 23:37               ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 18:59                 ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-08 19:06                   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 19:40                     ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-05 23:52             ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 19:51               ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-08 20:05                 ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2024-01-08 21:51                   ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-08 23:18               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-04 23:03 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-05  0:49 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-08 23:23 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-08 23:39   ` Yonghong Song

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