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From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	kernel-team@fb.com, Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Track aligned st store as imprecise spilled registers
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 13:51:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9e87ef0-5cac-4088-ba2e-ae5d250eaad8@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60cd23a09c8fe6ea45af151b6e806e456a0b120c.camel@gmail.com>


On 1/8/24 12:05 PM, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-01-08 at 11:51 -0800, Yonghong Song wrote:
> [...]
>>> In case if check_stack_read_var_off() would be modified to check not
>>> only for STACK_ZERO, but also for zero spills, I think that all such
>>> spills would have to be marked precise at the time of read,
>>> as backtracking would not be able to find those later.
>> I don't understand the above. If the code pattern looks like
>>     r1 = ...; /* r1 range [-32, -16);
>>     *(u8 *)(r10 + r1) = r2;
>>     ...
>>     r3 = *(u8 *)(r10 + r1);
>>     r3 needs to be marked as precise.
>>
>> Conservatively marking r2 in '*(u8 *)(r10 + r1) = r2' as precise
>> should be the correct way to do.
>>
>> Or you are thinking even more complex code pattern like
>>     *(u64 *)(r10 - 32) = r4;
>>     *(u64 *)(r10 - 24) = r5;
>>     ...
>>     r1 = ...; /* r1 range [-32, -16) */
>>     r3 = *(u8 *)(r10 + r1);
>>     r3 needs to be marked as precise.
>>
>> In this case, we should proactively mark r4 and r5 as precise.
>> But currently we did not do it, right?
> Yes, I'm thinking about the latter scenario.
> There would be zero spills for fp-32 and fp-24.
> If check_stack_read_var_off() is modified to handle zero spills,
> then it would conclude that r3 is zero.
> But if r3 is later marked precise, there would be no info for
> backtracking to mark fp-32, fp-24, r4, r5 as precise:
> - either backtracking info would have to be supplemented with a list
>    of stack locations that were spilled zeros at time of
>    check_stack_read_var_off();
> - or check_stack_read_var_off() would need to conservatively mark
>    all spilled zeros as precise.
>
> Nothing like that is needed now, because check_stack_read_var_off()
> would return unbound scalar for r3 upon seeing zero spill.
>
>> I think this later case is a very unlikely case.
> But it is possible and verifier has to be conservative.

Indeed. Such variable stack read has been handled properly.

Now I think I understand better on how verifier works for
load/store with var offsets. Basically some small changes
in check_stack_write_var_off(). Will post v3 soon.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-08 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-03 23:26 [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Track aligned st store as imprecise spilled registers Yonghong Song
2024-01-03 23:26 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add a selftest with not-8-byte aligned BPF_ST Yonghong Song
2024-01-04 16:37 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Track aligned st store as imprecise spilled registers Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 17:13   ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-04 18:43     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 18:30 ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 20:12   ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-04 21:10     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-04 23:09       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-04 23:29         ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-05  1:05           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-05  7:14             ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-05  8:10               ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-05 23:37               ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 18:59                 ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-08 19:06                   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 19:40                     ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-05 23:52             ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 19:51               ` Yonghong Song
2024-01-08 20:05                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-01-08 21:51                   ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2024-01-08 23:18               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-04 23:03 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-05  0:49 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-08 23:23 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-08 23:39   ` Yonghong Song

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