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From: Edward Cree <ecree@amd.com>
To: Harishankar Vishwanathan <harishankar.vishwanathan@gmail.com>,
	ast@kernel.org
Cc: harishankar.vishwanathan@rutgers.edu, paul@isovalent.com,
	Matan Shachnai <m.shachnai@rutgers.edu>,
	Srinivas Narayana <srinivas.narayana@rutgers.edu>,
	Santosh Nagarakatte <santosh.nagarakatte@rutgers.edu>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next] bpf: Fix latent unsoundness in and/or/xor value tracking
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:25:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77f5c5ed-881e-c9a8-cfdb-200c322fb55d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240402212039.51815-1-harishankar.vishwanathan@gmail.com>

On 4/2/24 22:20, Harishankar Vishwanathan wrote:
> Previous works [1, 2] have discovered and reported this issue. Our tool
> Agni [2, 3] consideres it a false positive. This is because, during the
> verification of the abstract operator scalar_min_max_and(), Agni restricts
> its inputs to those passing through reg_bounds_sync(). This mimics
> real-world verifier behavior, as reg_bounds_sync() is invariably executed
> at the tail of every abstract operator. Therefore, such behavior is
> unlikely in an actual verifier execution.
> 
> However, it is still unsound for an abstract operator to set signed bounds
> such that smin_value > smax_value. This patch fixes it, making the abstract
> operator sound for all (well-formed) inputs.

Just to check I'm understanding correctly: you're saying that the existing
 code has an undocumented precondition, that's currently maintained by the
 callers, and your patch removes the precondition in case a future patch
 (or cosmic rays?) makes a call without satisfying it?
Or is it in principle possible (just "unlikely") for a program to induce
 the current verifier to call scalar_min_max_foo() on a register that
 hasn't been through reg_bounds_sync()?
If the former, I think Fixes: is inappropriate here as there is no need to
 backport this change to stable kernels, although I agree the change is
 worth making in -next.

> It is worth noting that we can update the signed bounds using the unsigned
> bounds whenever the unsigned bounds do not cross the sign boundary (not
> just when the input signed bounds are positive, as was the case
> previously). This patch does exactly that
Commit message could also make clearer that the new code considers whether
 the *output* ubounds cross sign, rather than looking at the input bounds
 as the previous code did.  At first I was confused as to why XOR didn't
 need special handling (since -ve xor -ve is +ve).

> diff --git a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> index fcb62300f407..a7404a7d690f 100644
> --- a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> +++ b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> @@ -13326,23 +13326,21 @@ static void scalar32_min_max_and(struct bpf_reg_state *dst_reg,
>                 return;
>         }
> 
> -       /* We get our minimum from the var_off, since that's inherently
> +       /* We get our minimum from the var32_off, since that's inherently
>          * bitwise.  Our maximum is the minimum of the operands' maxima.
>          */

This change, adjusting a comment to match the existing code, should probably
 be in a separate patch.
> @@ -13395,23 +13391,21 @@ static void scalar32_min_max_or(struct bpf_reg_state *dst_reg,
>                 return;
>         }
> 
> -       /* We get our maximum from the var_off, and our minimum is the
> -        * maximum of the operands' minima
> +       /* We get our maximum from the var32_off, and our minimum is the
> +        * maximum of the operands' minima.
>          */

Same here.

Apart from that,
Acked-by: Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-03 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02 21:20 [PATCH v2 bpf-next] bpf: Fix latent unsoundness in and/or/xor value tracking Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-03  8:39 ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-04  3:05   ` Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-03 13:25 ` Edward Cree [this message]
2024-04-04  2:40   ` Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-09 13:16     ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2024-04-09 17:17     ` Edward Cree
2024-04-10 11:43       ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2024-04-13  0:05         ` Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-15  4:11           ` Shung-Hsi Yu

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