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From: Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>
To: Harishankar Vishwanathan <harishankar.vishwanathan@gmail.com>,
	Edward Cree <ecree@amd.com>
Cc: ast@kernel.org, harishankar.vishwanathan@rutgers.edu,
	paul@isovalent.com, Matan Shachnai <m.shachnai@rutgers.edu>,
	Srinivas Narayana <srinivas.narayana@rutgers.edu>,
	Santosh Nagarakatte <santosh.nagarakatte@rutgers.edu>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next] bpf: Fix latent unsoundness in and/or/xor value tracking
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 18:17:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d149d61-239c-67ac-0647-b59a12264299@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM=Ch04xd5u75UFeQwVrzP7=A5KPAw3x7_drqQHK3C-43T4T2w@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/04/2024 03:40, Harishankar Vishwanathan wrote:
> [...]
> Given the above, please advise if we should backport this patch to older
> kernels (and whether I should use the fixes tag).

I don't feel too strongly about it, and if you or Shung-Hsi still
 think, on reflection, that backporting is desirable, then go ahead
 and keep the Fixes: tag.
But maybe tweak the description so someone doesn't see "latent
 unsoundness" and think they need to CVE and rush this patch out as
 a security thing; it's more like hardening.  *shrug*

>> Commit message could also make clearer that the new code considers whether
>>  the *output* ubounds cross sign, rather than looking at the input bounds
>>  as the previous code did.  At first I was confused as to why XOR didn't
>>  need special handling (since -ve xor -ve is +ve).
> 
> Sounds good regarding making it clearer within the context of what the
> existing code does. However, I wanted to clarify that XOR does indeed use
> the same handling as all the other operations. Could you elaborate on what
> you mean?

Just that if you XOR two negative numbers you get a positive number,
 which isn't true for AND or OR; and my confused little brain thought
 that fact was relevant, which it isn't.

-e

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-09 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02 21:20 [PATCH v2 bpf-next] bpf: Fix latent unsoundness in and/or/xor value tracking Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-03  8:39 ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-04  3:05   ` Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-03 13:25 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-04  2:40   ` Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-09 13:16     ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2024-04-09 17:17     ` Edward Cree [this message]
2024-04-10 11:43       ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2024-04-13  0:05         ` Harishankar Vishwanathan
2024-04-15  4:11           ` Shung-Hsi Yu

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