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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, kernel-team@fb.com, yhs@fb.com,
	arnaldo.melo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 00/12] Use uapi kernel headers with vmlinux.h
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 23:55:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <806f02669ee8930a2f5c5e3f2d5cb0b3166832bb.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af1facf9-7bc8-8a3d-0db4-7b3f333589a2@meta.com>

On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 11:56 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> > > [...]
> > 
> > Ok, could we change the problem to detecting if some type is defined.
> > Would it be possible to have something like
> > 
> > #if !__is_type_defined(struct abc)
> > struct abc {
> > };
> > #endif
> > 
> > I think we talked about this and there were problems with this
> > approach, but I don't remember details and how insurmountable the
> > problem is. Having a way to check whether some type is defined would
> > be very useful even outside of -target bpf parlance, though, so maybe
> > it's the problem worth attacking?
> 
> Yes, we discussed this before. This will need to add additional work
> in preprocessor. I just made a discussion topic in llvm discourse
> 
> https://discourse.llvm.org/t/add-a-type-checking-macro-is-type-defined-type/66268
> 
> Let us see whether we can get some upstream agreement or not.

I did a small investigation of this feature.

The main pre-requirement is construction of the symbol table during
source code pre-processing, which implies necessity to parse the
source code at the same time. It is technically possible in clang, as
lexing, pre-processing and AST construction happens at the same time
when in compilation mode.

The prototype is available here [1], it includes:
- Change in the pre-processor that adds an optional callback
  "IsTypeDefinedFn" & necessary parsing of __is_type_defined
  construct.
- Change in Sema module (responsible for parsing/AST & symbol table)
  that installs the appropriate "IsTypeDefinedFn" in the pre-processor
  instance.

However, this prototype builds a backward dependency between
pre-processor and semantic analysis. There are currently no such
dependencies in the clang code base.

This makes it impossible to do pre-processing and compilation
separately, e.g. consider the following example:

$ cat test.c

  struct foo { int x; };
  
  #if __is_type_defined(foo)
    const int x = 1;
  #else
    const int x = 2;
  #endif
  
$ clang -cc1 -ast-print test.c -o -

  struct foo {
      int x;
  };
  const int x = 1;

$ clang -E test.c -o -

  # ... some line directives ...
  struct foo { int x; };
  const int x = 2;

Note that __is_type_defined is computed to different value in the
first and second calls. This is so because semantic analysis (AST,
symbol table) is not done for -E.

It also breaks that C11 standard which clearly separates
pre-processing and semantic analysis phases, see [2] 5.1.1.2.

So, my conclusion is as follows: this is technically possible in clang
but has no chance to reach llvm upstream.

Thanks,
Eduard

[1] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/compare/main...eddyz87:llvm-project:is-type-defined-experiment
[2] https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1548.pdf


> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, I suggest splitting libbpf btf_dedup and btf_dump changes into a
> > > > separate series and sending them as non-RFC sooner. Those improvements
> > > > are independent of all the header guards stuff, let's get them landed
> > > > sooner.
> > > > 
> > > > > After some discussion with Alexei and Yonghong I'd like to request
> > > > > your comments regarding a somewhat brittle and partial solution to
> > > > > this issue that relies on adding `#ifndef FOO_H ... #endif` guards in
> > > > > the generated `vmlinux.h`.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > Eduard Zingerman (12):
> > > > >     libbpf: Deduplicate unambigous standalone forward declarations
> > > > >     selftests/bpf: Tests for standalone forward BTF declarations
> > > > >       deduplication
> > > > >     libbpf: Support for BTF_DECL_TAG dump in C format
> > > > >     selftests/bpf: Tests for BTF_DECL_TAG dump in C format
> > > > >     libbpf: Header guards for selected data structures in vmlinux.h
> > > > >     selftests/bpf: Tests for header guards printing in BTF dump
> > > > >     bpftool: Enable header guards generation
> > > > >     kbuild: Script to infer header guard values for uapi headers
> > > > >     kbuild: Header guards for types from include/uapi/*.h in kernel BTF
> > > > >     selftests/bpf: Script to verify uapi headers usage with vmlinux.h
> > > > >     selftests/bpf: Known good uapi headers for test_uapi_headers.py
> > > > >     selftests/bpf: script for infer_header_guards.pl testing
> > > > > 
> > > > >    scripts/infer_header_guards.pl                | 191 +++++
> > > > >    scripts/link-vmlinux.sh                       |  13 +-
> > > > >    tools/bpf/bpftool/btf.c                       |   4 +-
> > > > >    tools/lib/bpf/btf.c                           | 178 ++++-
> > > > >    tools/lib/bpf/btf.h                           |   7 +-
> > > > >    tools/lib/bpf/btf_dump.c                      | 232 +++++-
> > > > >    .../selftests/bpf/good_uapi_headers.txt       | 677 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >    tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/btf.c  | 152 ++++
> > > > >    .../selftests/bpf/prog_tests/btf_dump.c       |  11 +-
> > > > >    .../bpf/progs/btf_dump_test_case_decl_tag.c   |  39 +
> > > > >    .../progs/btf_dump_test_case_header_guards.c  |  94 +++
> > > > >    .../bpf/test_uapi_header_guards_infer.sh      |  33 +
> > > > >    .../selftests/bpf/test_uapi_headers.py        | 197 +++++
> > > > >    13 files changed, 1816 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > > > >    create mode 100755 scripts/infer_header_guards.pl
> > > > >    create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/good_uapi_headers.txt
> > > > >    create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/btf_dump_test_case_decl_tag.c
> > > > >    create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/btf_dump_test_case_header_guards.c
> > > > >    create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/test_uapi_header_guards_infer.sh
> > > > >    create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/test_uapi_headers.py
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > 2.34.1
> > > > > 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-25 22:27 [RFC bpf-next 00/12] Use uapi kernel headers with vmlinux.h Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 01/12] libbpf: Deduplicate unambigous standalone forward declarations Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:07   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-31  1:00     ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-31 15:49     ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-11-01 17:08       ` Alan Maguire
2022-11-01 17:37         ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 02/12] selftests/bpf: Tests for standalone forward BTF declarations deduplication Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 03/12] libbpf: Support for BTF_DECL_TAG dump in C format Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:36   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 04/12] selftests/bpf: Tests " Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 05/12] libbpf: Header guards for selected data structures in vmlinux.h Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:44   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 06/12] selftests/bpf: Tests for header guards printing in BTF dump Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 07/12] bpftool: Enable header guards generation Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 08/12] kbuild: Script to infer header guard values for uapi headers Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:51   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 09/12] kbuild: Header guards for types from include/uapi/*.h in kernel BTF Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 18:43   ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-27 18:55     ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-27 22:44       ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28  0:00         ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-28  0:14           ` Mykola Lysenko
2022-10-28  1:23             ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28  1:21           ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 10/12] selftests/bpf: Script to verify uapi headers usage with vmlinux.h Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:28 ` [RFC bpf-next 11/12] selftests/bpf: Known good uapi headers for test_uapi_headers.py Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:28 ` [RFC bpf-next 12/12] selftests/bpf: script for infer_header_guards.pl testing Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 23:46 ` [RFC bpf-next 00/12] Use uapi kernel headers with vmlinux.h Alexei Starovoitov
2022-10-26 22:46   ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-26 11:10 ` Alan Maguire
2022-10-26 23:54   ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 23:14 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-28  1:33   ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28 17:13     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-28 18:56       ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28 21:35         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-11-01 16:01           ` Alan Maguire
2022-11-01 18:35             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-01 19:21               ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-11-01 19:44                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-11 21:55         ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2022-11-14  7:52           ` Yonghong Song
2022-11-14 21:13             ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-11-14 21:50               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-16  2:01                 ` Eduard Zingerman

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