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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, kernel-team@fb.com, yhs@fb.com,
	arnaldo.melo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 00/12] Use uapi kernel headers with vmlinux.h
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:13:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e001c117fc2f7c202e34a68007abdd4f7744c0e1.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67c5d476-b8f4-9007-ca00-a8a9c111c826@meta.com>

On Sun, 2022-11-13 at 23:52 -0800, Yonghong Song wrote:
> 
> On 11/11/22 1:55 PM, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 11:56 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, could we change the problem to detecting if some type is defined.
> > > > Would it be possible to have something like
> > > > 
> > > > #if !__is_type_defined(struct abc)
> > > > struct abc {
> > > > };
> > > > #endif
> > > > 
> > > > I think we talked about this and there were problems with this
> > > > approach, but I don't remember details and how insurmountable the
> > > > problem is. Having a way to check whether some type is defined would
> > > > be very useful even outside of -target bpf parlance, though, so maybe
> > > > it's the problem worth attacking?
> > > 
> > > Yes, we discussed this before. This will need to add additional work
> > > in preprocessor. I just made a discussion topic in llvm discourse
> > > 
> > > https://discourse.llvm.org/t/add-a-type-checking-macro-is-type-defined-type/66268
> > > 
> > > Let us see whether we can get some upstream agreement or not.
> > 
> > I did a small investigation of this feature.
> > 
> > The main pre-requirement is construction of the symbol table during
> > source code pre-processing, which implies necessity to parse the
> > source code at the same time. It is technically possible in clang, as
> > lexing, pre-processing and AST construction happens at the same time
> > when in compilation mode.
> > 
> > The prototype is available here [1], it includes:
> > - Change in the pre-processor that adds an optional callback
> >    "IsTypeDefinedFn" & necessary parsing of __is_type_defined
> >    construct.
> > - Change in Sema module (responsible for parsing/AST & symbol table)
> >    that installs the appropriate "IsTypeDefinedFn" in the pre-processor
> >    instance.
> > 
> > However, this prototype builds a backward dependency between
> > pre-processor and semantic analysis. There are currently no such
> > dependencies in the clang code base.
> > 
> > This makes it impossible to do pre-processing and compilation
> > separately, e.g. consider the following example:
> > 
> > $ cat test.c
> > 
> >    struct foo { int x; };
> >    
> >    #if __is_type_defined(foo)
> >      const int x = 1;
> >    #else
> >      const int x = 2;
> >    #endif
> >    
> > $ clang -cc1 -ast-print test.c -o -
> > 
> >    struct foo {
> >        int x;
> >    };
> >    const int x = 1;
> > 
> > $ clang -E test.c -o -
> > 
> >    # ... some line directives ...
> >    struct foo { int x; };
> >    const int x = 2;
> 
> Is it any chance '-E' could output the same one as '-cc1 -ast-print'?
> That is, even with -E we could do some semantics analysis
> as well, using either current clang semantics analysis or creating
> an minimal version of sema analysis in preprocessor itself?

Sema drives consumption of tokens from Preprocessor. Calls to
Preprocessor are done on a parsing recursive descent. Extracting a
stream of tokens would require an incremental parser instead.

A minimal version of such parser is possible to implement for C.
It might be the case that matching open / closing braces and
identifiers following 'struct' / 'union' / 'enum' keywords might be
almost sufficient but I need to try to be sure (e.g. it is more
complex for 'typedef').

I can work on it but I don't think there is a chance to upstream this work.

Thanks,
Eduard

> 
> > 
> > Note that __is_type_defined is computed to different value in the
> > first and second calls. This is so because semantic analysis (AST,
> > symbol table) is not done for -E.
> > 
> > It also breaks that C11 standard which clearly separates
> > pre-processing and semantic analysis phases, see [2] 5.1.1.2.
> > 
> > So, my conclusion is as follows: this is technically possible in clang
> > but has no chance to reach llvm upstream.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> > 
> > [1] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/compare/main...eddyz87:llvm-project:is-type-defined-experiment
> > [2] https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1548.pdf
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BTW, I suggest splitting libbpf btf_dedup and btf_dump changes into a
> > > > > > separate series and sending them as non-RFC sooner. Those improvements
> > > > > > are independent of all the header guards stuff, let's get them landed
> > > > > > sooner.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > After some discussion with Alexei and Yonghong I'd like to request
> > > > > > > your comments regarding a somewhat brittle and partial solution to
> > > > > > > this issue that relies on adding `#ifndef FOO_H ... #endif` guards in
> > > > > > > the generated `vmlinux.h`.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Eduard Zingerman (12):
> > > > > > >      libbpf: Deduplicate unambigous standalone forward declarations
> > > > > > >      selftests/bpf: Tests for standalone forward BTF declarations
> > > > > > >        deduplication
> > > > > > >      libbpf: Support for BTF_DECL_TAG dump in C format
> > > > > > >      selftests/bpf: Tests for BTF_DECL_TAG dump in C format
> > > > > > >      libbpf: Header guards for selected data structures in vmlinux.h
> > > > > > >      selftests/bpf: Tests for header guards printing in BTF dump
> > > > > > >      bpftool: Enable header guards generation
> > > > > > >      kbuild: Script to infer header guard values for uapi headers
> > > > > > >      kbuild: Header guards for types from include/uapi/*.h in kernel BTF
> > > > > > >      selftests/bpf: Script to verify uapi headers usage with vmlinux.h
> > > > > > >      selftests/bpf: Known good uapi headers for test_uapi_headers.py
> > > > > > >      selftests/bpf: script for infer_header_guards.pl testing
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >     scripts/infer_header_guards.pl                | 191 +++++
> > > > > > >     scripts/link-vmlinux.sh                       |  13 +-
> > > > > > >     tools/bpf/bpftool/btf.c                       |   4 +-
> > > > > > >     tools/lib/bpf/btf.c                           | 178 ++++-
> > > > > > >     tools/lib/bpf/btf.h                           |   7 +-
> > > > > > >     tools/lib/bpf/btf_dump.c                      | 232 +++++-
> > > > > > >     .../selftests/bpf/good_uapi_headers.txt       | 677 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > >     tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/btf.c  | 152 ++++
> > > > > > >     .../selftests/bpf/prog_tests/btf_dump.c       |  11 +-
> > > > > > >     .../bpf/progs/btf_dump_test_case_decl_tag.c   |  39 +
> > > > > > >     .../progs/btf_dump_test_case_header_guards.c  |  94 +++
> > > > > > >     .../bpf/test_uapi_header_guards_infer.sh      |  33 +
> > > > > > >     .../selftests/bpf/test_uapi_headers.py        | 197 +++++
> > > > > > >     13 files changed, 1816 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > > > > > >     create mode 100755 scripts/infer_header_guards.pl
> > > > > > >     create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/good_uapi_headers.txt
> > > > > > >     create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/btf_dump_test_case_decl_tag.c
> > > > > > >     create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/btf_dump_test_case_header_guards.c
> > > > > > >     create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/test_uapi_header_guards_infer.sh
> > > > > > >     create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/test_uapi_headers.py
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > 2.34.1
> > > > > > > 
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-25 22:27 [RFC bpf-next 00/12] Use uapi kernel headers with vmlinux.h Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 01/12] libbpf: Deduplicate unambigous standalone forward declarations Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:07   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-31  1:00     ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-31 15:49     ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-11-01 17:08       ` Alan Maguire
2022-11-01 17:37         ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 02/12] selftests/bpf: Tests for standalone forward BTF declarations deduplication Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 03/12] libbpf: Support for BTF_DECL_TAG dump in C format Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:36   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 04/12] selftests/bpf: Tests " Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 05/12] libbpf: Header guards for selected data structures in vmlinux.h Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:44   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 06/12] selftests/bpf: Tests for header guards printing in BTF dump Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 07/12] bpftool: Enable header guards generation Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 08/12] kbuild: Script to infer header guard values for uapi headers Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 22:51   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 09/12] kbuild: Header guards for types from include/uapi/*.h in kernel BTF Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 18:43   ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-27 18:55     ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-27 22:44       ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28  0:00         ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-28  0:14           ` Mykola Lysenko
2022-10-28  1:23             ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28  1:21           ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-25 22:27 ` [RFC bpf-next 10/12] selftests/bpf: Script to verify uapi headers usage with vmlinux.h Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:28 ` [RFC bpf-next 11/12] selftests/bpf: Known good uapi headers for test_uapi_headers.py Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 22:28 ` [RFC bpf-next 12/12] selftests/bpf: script for infer_header_guards.pl testing Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-25 23:46 ` [RFC bpf-next 00/12] Use uapi kernel headers with vmlinux.h Alexei Starovoitov
2022-10-26 22:46   ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-26 11:10 ` Alan Maguire
2022-10-26 23:54   ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-10-27 23:14 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-28  1:33   ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28 17:13     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-10-28 18:56       ` Yonghong Song
2022-10-28 21:35         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-11-01 16:01           ` Alan Maguire
2022-11-01 18:35             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-01 19:21               ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-11-01 19:44                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-11 21:55         ` Eduard Zingerman
2022-11-14  7:52           ` Yonghong Song
2022-11-14 21:13             ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2022-11-14 21:50               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-16  2:01                 ` Eduard Zingerman

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