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From: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"daniel@iogearbox.net" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"ast@kernel.org" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Torvalds, Linus" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>,
	"song@kernel.org" <song@kernel.org>,
	"mcgrof@kernel.org" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 5/5] bpf: use module_alloc_huge for bpf_prog_pack
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 18:25:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8C89EED6-6531-4144-BDA8-B6519396F67C@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3de84ce7fa62c9e460a49143ffa4709b6351390.camel@intel.com>



> On May 19, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Edgecombe, Rick P <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2022-05-19 at 06:42 +0000, Song Liu wrote:
>> Thinking more on this. Even huge page is not supported, we can
>> allocate
>> 2MB worth of 4kB pages and keep using it. This would help direct map
>> fragmentation. And the code would also be simpler. 
>> 
>> Rick, I guess this is inline with some of your ideas?
> 
> Yea, that is what I wondering. Potential benefits are just speculative
> though. There is a memory overhead cost, so it's not free.

Yeah, I had the same concern with memory overhead. The benefit should 
not exceed 0.2% (when 2MB page is supported), so I think we can use
4kB pages for now.  

> 
> As for the other question of whether to fix VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS. If
> there really is an intention to create a more general module_alloc()
> replacement soon, then I think it is ok to side step it. An optimal
> replacement might not need it and it could be removed in that case.
> Let's at least add a WARN about it not working with huge pages though.

IIUC, it will take some effort to let kernel modules use a solution 
like this. But there are some low hanging fruits, like ftrace and BPF
trampolines. Maybe that's enough to promote a more general solution. 

For the WARN, I guess we need something like this?

diff --git i/include/linux/vmalloc.h w/include/linux/vmalloc.h
index b159c2789961..5e0d0a60d9d5 100644
--- i/include/linux/vmalloc.h
+++ w/include/linux/vmalloc.h
@@ -238,6 +238,7 @@ static inline void set_vm_flush_reset_perms(void *addr)
 {
        struct vm_struct *vm = find_vm_area(addr);

+       WARN_ON_ONCE(is_vm_area_hugepages(addr));
        if (vm)
                vm->flags |= VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS;
 }


Thanks,
Song

> 
> I also think the benchmarking so far is not sufficient to make the case
> that huge page mappings help your workload since the direct map splits
> were also different between the tests. I was expecting it to help
> though. Others were the ones that asked for that, so just commenting my
> analysis here.


      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-19 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-16  5:40 [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf_prog_pack followup Song Liu
2022-05-16  5:40 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/5] bpf: fill new bpf_prog_pack with illegal instructions Song Liu
2022-05-16  5:40 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/5] x86/alternative: introduce text_poke_set Song Liu
2022-05-17 19:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-05-17 21:09     ` Song Liu
2022-05-18  6:58   ` Song Liu
2022-05-18  7:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-18 15:32       ` Song Liu
2022-05-18 17:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-18 18:34     ` Song Liu
2022-05-19  7:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-16  5:40 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/5] bpf: introduce bpf_arch_text_invalidate for bpf_prog_pack Song Liu
2022-05-16  5:40 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/5] module: introduce module_alloc_huge Song Liu
2022-05-18  6:28   ` Song Liu
2022-05-16  5:40 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/5] bpf: use module_alloc_huge for bpf_prog_pack Song Liu
2022-05-17 19:15   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-05-17 21:08     ` Song Liu
2022-05-17 23:58       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-05-18  6:25         ` Song Liu
2022-05-18  6:34         ` Song Liu
2022-05-18 16:49           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-05-18 18:31             ` Song Liu
2022-05-19  6:42         ` Song Liu
2022-05-19 16:56           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-05-19 18:25             ` Song Liu [this message]

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