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From: "Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>
To: "Ning Ding" <dingning04@gmail.com>
Cc: <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, <ast@kernel.org>, <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	<andrii@kernel.org>, <eddyz87@gmail.com>, <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	<davem@davemloft.net>, <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v2 2/2] bpf: Reject untrusted pointers in refcount_acquire
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2026 08:50:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKF3XPW4HDQK.FDJMYDLGXZ60@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJP4iuuz0T694PnyZmcq9f9PaQLX2kV+Sd+veQN+uydsvZ=BFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon Aug 3, 2026 at 8:48 AM CEST, Ning Ding wrote:
>> I would just disallow it. I don't even know how things would be correct if a
>> untrusted owning or non-owning ref is passed around. I think the case in patch 2
>> is demonstrating that it's a bogus type state for being passed around into the
>> kernel.
>>
>> The only meaningful correct use seems to be reading from such a pointer, for
>> which PTR_UNTRUSTED downgrade instead of invalidating it completely should be
>> good enough.
>
> Just to confirm, semantically should this case be rejected by the verifier?
>
> bpf_rcu_read_lock();
> res = mapval->node;
> bpf_rcu_read_unlock();
> return res->key;
>
> At the final read, res is MEM_ALLOC | NON_OWN_REF | PTR_UNTRUSTED.
> Should this be accepted for scalar reads, or should this pointer state
> be rejected since it could possibly cause read-after-free.

It will work, you can test it yourself. Reads on PTR_UNTRUSTED is fine, it gets
handled by the BPF_PROBE_MEM loads, which handle use-after-free safely.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-03  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-26 23:50 [PATCH bpf v2 0/2] bpf: Fix refcount_acquire handling for borrowed kptrs Ning Ding
2026-07-26 23:50 ` [PATCH bpf v2 1/2] bpf: Keep refcount_acquire nullable for borrowed RCU kptrs Ning Ding
2026-07-27  4:50   ` Greg KH
2026-07-26 23:50 ` [PATCH bpf v2 2/2] bpf: Reject untrusted pointers in refcount_acquire Ning Ding
2026-07-27  0:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-27  0:40     ` Ning Ding
2026-07-27  4:50   ` Greg KH
2026-08-02 23:29   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-08-03  5:57     ` Ning Ding
2026-08-03  6:08       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-08-03  6:48         ` Ning Ding
2026-08-03  6:50           ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi [this message]
2026-08-03  7:10             ` Ning Ding
2026-08-03  7:21               ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-08-03  7:44                 ` Ning Ding
2026-08-03  7:48                   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi

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