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From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>, Tianyi Liu <i.pear@outlook.com>,
	andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com, mhiramat@kernel.org, ajor@meta.com,
	albancrequy@linux.microsoft.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	flaniel@linux.microsoft.com, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@jordanrome.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tracing/uprobe: Add missing PID filter for uretprobe
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:08:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zs2lpd0Ni0aJoHwI@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240826115752.GA21268@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 01:57:52PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/26, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 12:40:18AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > 	$ ./test &
> > > 	$ bpftrace -p $! -e 'uprobe:./test:func { printf("%d\n", pid); }'
> > >
> > > I hope that the syntax of the 2nd command is correct...
> > >
> > > I _think_ that it will print 2 pids too.
> >
> > yes.. but with CLONE_VM both processes share 'mm'
> 
> Yes sure,
> 
> > so they are threads,
> 
> Well this depends on definition ;) but the CLONE_VM child is not a sub-thread,
> it has another TGID. See below.
> 
> > and at least uprobe_multi filters by process [1] now.. ;-)
> 
> OK, if you say that this behaviour is fine I won't argue, I simply do not know.
> But see below.
> 
> > > But "perf-record -p" works as expected.
> >
> > I wonder it's because there's the perf layer that schedules each
> > uprobe event only when its process (PID1/2) is scheduled in and will
> > receive events only from that cpu while the process is running on it
> 
> Not sure I understand... The task which hits the breakpoint is always
> current, it is always scheduled in.
> 
> The main purpose of uprobe_perf_func()->uprobe_perf_filter() is NOT that
> we want to avoid __uprobe_perf_func() although this makes sense.
> 
> The main purpose is that we want to remove the breakpoints in current->mm
> when uprobe_perf_filter() returns false, that is why UPROBE_HANDLER_REMOVE.
> IOW, the main purpose is not penalise user-space unnecessarily.
> 
> IIUC (but I am not sure), perf-record -p will work "correctly" even if we
> remove uprobe_perf_filter() altogether. IIRC the perf layer does its own
> filtering but I forgot everything.
> 
> And this makes me think that perhaps BPF can't rely on uprobe_perf_filter()
> either, even we forget about ret-probes.
> 
> > [1] 46ba0e49b642 bpf: fix multi-uprobe PID filtering logic
> 
> Looks obviously wrong... get_pid_task(PIDTYPE_TGID) can return a zombie
> leader with ->mm == NULL while other threads and thus the whole process
> is still alive.
> 
> And again, the changelog says "the intent for PID filtering it to filter by
> *process*", but clone(CLONE_VM) creates another process, not a thread.
> 
> So perhaps we need
> 
> 	-	if (link->task && current->mm != link->task->mm)
> 	+	if (link->task && !same_thread_group(current, link->task))
> 
> in uprobe_prog_run() to make "filter by *process*" true, but this won't
> fix the problem with link->task->mm == NULL in uprobe_multi_link_filter().

would the same_thread_group(current, link->task) work in such case?
(zombie leader with other alive threads)

jirka

> 
> 
> Does bpftrace use bpf_uprobe_multi_link_attach/etc ? I guess not...
> Then which userspace tool uses this code? ;)
> 
> Oleg.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-27 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-08-23 17:44 ` [PATCH v2] tracing/uprobe: Add missing PID filter for uretprobe Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-23 19:07   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-24  5:49     ` Tianyi Liu
2024-08-24 17:27       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-08-25 17:14       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-25 18:43         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-25 22:40         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-26 10:05           ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-26 11:57             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-26 12:24               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-26 13:48               ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-26 18:56                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-26 21:25                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-26 22:01                   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-26 22:08                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-26 22:29                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-27 13:07                       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-27 13:45                         ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-27 16:45                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-28 11:40                           ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-27 20:19                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-28 11:46                           ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-29 15:20                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-29 19:46                               ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-29 21:12                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-29 23:22                                   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-27  6:27                   ` Tianyi Liu
2024-08-27 10:08               ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2024-08-27 10:20                 ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-27 10:54                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-27 10:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-27 13:32                   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-27 14:26                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-27 14:41                       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-26 14:52           ` Tianyi Liu
2024-08-25 17:00     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-30 10:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-30 12:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-30 13:34   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-30 15:51     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-02  9:11       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-03 18:09         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-03 18:11           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-03 19:15             ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-01 19:22   ` Tianyi Liu
2024-09-01 23:26     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-02 17:17       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-03 14:33         ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-06 10:43     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-06 19:18       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 10:41         ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-09 18:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-10  8:45             ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-07 19:19       ` Tianyi Liu
2024-09-08 13:15         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09  1:16           ` Andrii Nakryiko

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