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From: Joseph Huang <joseph.huang.2024@gmail.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: "Nikolay Aleksandrov" <razor@blackwall.org>,
	"Joseph Huang" <Joseph.Huang@garmin.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Roopa Prabhu" <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	"Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/10] MC Flood disable and snooping
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 16:14:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f385946-84d0-499c-9bf6-90ef65918356@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240405211502.q5gfwcwyhkm6w7xy@skbuf>

On 4/5/2024 5:15 PM, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 04:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Huang wrote:
>> Like this?
>>
>> bridge link set dev swp0 mcast_flood off
>>    - all flooding disabled
>>
>> bridge link set dev swp0 mcast_flood on
>>    - all flooding enabled
>>
>> bridge link set dev swp0 mcast_flood on mcast_ipv4_data_flood off
>> mcast_ipv6_data_flood off
>>    - IPv4 data packets flooding disabled, IPv6 data packets flooding
>> disabled, everything else floods (that is to say, only allow IPv4 local
>> subnet and IPv6 link-local to flood)
>>
>> ?
> 
> Yeah.
> 
>> The syntax seems to be counterintuitive.
>>
>> Or like this?
>>
>> bridge link set dev swp0 mcast_flood on mcast_ipv4_ctrl_flood on
>>    - only allow IPv4 local subnet to flood, everything else off
>>
>> ?
> 
> Nope.
> 
>> So basically the question is, what should the behavior be when something is
>> omitted from the command line?
> 
> The answer is always: "new options should default to behaving exactly
> like before". It's not just about the command line arguments, but also
> about the actual netlink attributes that iproute2 (and other tooling)
> creates when communicating with the kernel. Old user space has no idea
> about the existence of mcast_ipv4_ctrl_flood et. al. So, if netlink
> attributes specifying their value are not sent by user space, their
> value in the kernel must mimic the value of mcast_flood.

How about the following syntax? I think it satisfies all the "not 
breaking existing behavior" requirements (new option defaults to off, 
and missing user space netlink attributes does not change the existing 
behavior):

mcast_flood off
   all off
mcast_flood off mcast_flood_rfc4541 off
   all off
mcast_flood off mcast_flood_rfc4541 on
   224.0.0.X and ff02::1 on, the rest off
mcast_flood on
   all on
mcast_flood on mcast_flood_rfc4541 off
   all on (mcast_flood on overrides mcast_flood_rfc4541)
mcast_flood on mcast_flood_rfc4541 on
   all on
mcast_flood_rfc4541 off
   invalid (mcast_flood_rfc4541 is only valid if mcast_flood [on | off] 
is specified first)
mcast_flood_rfc4541 on
   invalid (mcast_flood_rfc4541 is only valid if mcast_flood [on | off] 
is specified first)

Think of mcast_flood_rfc4541 like a pet door if you will.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-29 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02  0:10 [PATCH RFC net-next 00/10] MC Flood disable and snooping Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 01/10] net: bridge: Flood Queries even when mc flood is disabled Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 02/10] net: bridge: Always multicast_flood Reports Joseph Huang
2024-04-03 15:52   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 03/10] net: bridge: Always flood local subnet mc packets Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 04/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Add all hosts mc addr to ATU Joseph Huang
2024-04-02 18:08   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 05/10] net: dsa: Add support for PORT_MROUTER attribute Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 06/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Track soft bridge objects Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 07/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Track bridge mdb objects Joseph Huang
2024-04-02 12:23   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-04 20:43     ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 11:07       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-05 18:58         ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-29 22:07           ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-30  0:59             ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-30 16:27               ` Joseph Huang
2024-05-02 20:37                 ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 08/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Convert MAB to use bit flags Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 09/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Enable mc flood for mrouter port Joseph Huang
2024-04-03 15:49   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 10/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Offload " Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  9:28 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 00/10] MC Flood disable and snooping Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-02 17:43   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-02 18:50     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-02 20:46       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-02 21:59         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-04 22:16           ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 10:20             ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-05 11:00               ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-05 20:22                 ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 21:15                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-29 20:14                     ` Joseph Huang [this message]
2024-04-30  1:21                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-30 17:01                         ` Joseph Huang
2024-05-02 12:12                           ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-02-26 20:20                             ` Linus Lüssing
2025-02-26 22:17                               ` Linus Lüssing
2024-04-02 12:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 21:35   ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-04 22:11     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 22:40       ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 13:09         ` Andrew Lunn

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