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From: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>
To: Joseph Huang <joseph.huang.2024@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: "Joseph Huang" <Joseph.Huang@garmin.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Roopa Prabhu" <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	"Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/10] MC Flood disable and snooping
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 15:12:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <431e1af1-6043-4e3e-bc3b-5998ec366de7@blackwall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b90caf5f-fa1e-41e6-a7c2-5af042b0828e@gmail.com>

On 30/04/2024 20:01, Joseph Huang wrote:
> On 4/29/2024 9:21 PM, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 04:14:03PM -0400, Joseph Huang wrote:
>>> How about the following syntax? I think it satisfies all the "not breaking
>>> existing behavior" requirements (new option defaults to off, and missing
>>> user space netlink attributes does not change the existing behavior):
>>>
>>> mcast_flood off
>>>    all off
>>> mcast_flood off mcast_flood_rfc4541 off
>>>    all off
>>> mcast_flood off mcast_flood_rfc4541 on
>>>    224.0.0.X and ff02::1 on, the rest off
>>> mcast_flood on
>>>    all on
>>> mcast_flood on mcast_flood_rfc4541 off
>>>    all on (mcast_flood on overrides mcast_flood_rfc4541)
>>> mcast_flood on mcast_flood_rfc4541 on
>>>    all on
>>> mcast_flood_rfc4541 off
>>>    invalid (mcast_flood_rfc4541 is only valid if mcast_flood [on | off] is
>>> specified first)
>>> mcast_flood_rfc4541 on
>>>    invalid (mcast_flood_rfc4541 is only valid if mcast_flood [on | off] is
>>> specified first)
>>
>> A bridge port defaults to having BR_MCAST_FLOOD set - see new_nbp().
>> Netlink attributes are only there to _change_ the state of properties in
>> the kernel. They don't need to be specified by user space if there's
>> nothing to be changed. "Only valid if another netlink attribute comes
>> first" makes no sense. You can alter 2 bridge port flags as part of the
>> same netlink message, or as part of different netlink messages (sent
>> over sockets of other processes).
>>
>>>
>>> Think of mcast_flood_rfc4541 like a pet door if you will.
>>
>> Ultimately, as far as I see it, both the OR-based and the AND-based UAPI
>> addition could be made to work in a way that's perhaps similarly backwards
>> compatible. It needs to be worked out with the bridge maintainers. Given
>> that I'm not doing great with my spare time, I will take a back seat on
>> that.
> 
> Nik, do you have any objection to the following proposal?
> 
> mcast_flood ->          default/    off         on
> (existing flag)         missing     (specified/ (specified/
>                         (on)        nlmsg)      nlmsg)
> 
> mcast_flood_rfc4541
> (proposed new flag)
>      |
>      v
> default/                flood all   no flood    flood all
> missing
> (off)
> 
> off                     flood all   no flood    flood all
> (specified/nlmsg)
> 
> on                      flood all   flood 4541  flood all
> (specified/nlmsg)                   ^^^^^^^^^^
>                                     only behavior change
> 
> 
> Basically the attributes are OR'ed together to form the final flooding decision.
> 
> 

Looks good to me. Please make use of the boolopt uapi to avoid adding new
nl attributes.

Thanks,
 Nik



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-02 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02  0:10 [PATCH RFC net-next 00/10] MC Flood disable and snooping Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 01/10] net: bridge: Flood Queries even when mc flood is disabled Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 02/10] net: bridge: Always multicast_flood Reports Joseph Huang
2024-04-03 15:52   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 03/10] net: bridge: Always flood local subnet mc packets Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 04/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Add all hosts mc addr to ATU Joseph Huang
2024-04-02 18:08   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 05/10] net: dsa: Add support for PORT_MROUTER attribute Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 06/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Track soft bridge objects Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 07/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Track bridge mdb objects Joseph Huang
2024-04-02 12:23   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-04 20:43     ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 11:07       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-05 18:58         ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-29 22:07           ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-30  0:59             ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-30 16:27               ` Joseph Huang
2024-05-02 20:37                 ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 08/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Convert MAB to use bit flags Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 09/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Enable mc flood for mrouter port Joseph Huang
2024-04-03 15:49   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-02  0:11 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 10/10] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Offload " Joseph Huang
2024-04-02  9:28 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 00/10] MC Flood disable and snooping Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-02 17:43   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-02 18:50     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-02 20:46       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-02 21:59         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-04 22:16           ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 10:20             ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-05 11:00               ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-04-05 20:22                 ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 21:15                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-29 20:14                     ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-30  1:21                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-04-30 17:01                         ` Joseph Huang
2024-05-02 12:12                           ` Nikolay Aleksandrov [this message]
2025-02-26 20:20                             ` Linus Lüssing
2025-02-26 22:17                               ` Linus Lüssing
2024-04-02 12:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 21:35   ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-04 22:11     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 22:40       ` Joseph Huang
2024-04-05 13:09         ` Andrew Lunn

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