[Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM

[Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM

[Bob Bouterse]

Sorry everone, this is a bit of complaining from me, with a hope that
there is someone that can give me either help to configure Buildroot for
an Omap3530 EVM board, or hard measurements that I can use to show my
Management (and TI) that OE is slow and will cost us development time.

Here is my problem:
We are beginning a new project, an have decided to use the Omap3530 EVM
board to begin development on. We do not know if we will go to market
with the OMAP or some other processor at this time.
Seems like the entire Omap Open Source Community has jumped to using
OpenEmbedded with no consideration for how well it works. I find several
documents that give hearsay comments that it might be slow, but no
metrics to show what they mean. I have seen that it seems to be around
2.5 to 4 times slower that buildroot, and even worse running on a VM,
but due to my lack of experience with OE, it could be a configuration
error on my part. I am working with the Arago group on that.

Does anyone have a board configuration for the Omap3503 EVM for
buildroot? It would help a lot if I could show my management a working
build really quickly. I need the target/device files and Omap patches in
a working build. I am not being given any time to work on this because
Arago "works".

[Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM

[Paul Jones]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: buildroot-bounces at busybox.net [mailto:buildroot-
> bounces at busybox.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bouterse
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 6:24 AM
> To: buildroot at busybox.net
> Subject: [Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM
> 
> Sorry everone, this is a bit of complaining from me, with a hope that
there is
> someone that can give me either help to configure Buildroot for an
> Omap3530 EVM board, or hard measurements that I can use to show my
> Management (and TI) that OE is slow and will cost us development time.
> 
> Here is my problem:
> We are beginning a new project, an have decided to use the Omap3530 EVM
> board to begin development on. We do not know if we will go to market with
> the OMAP or some other processor at this time.
> Seems like the entire Omap Open Source Community has jumped to using
> OpenEmbedded with no consideration for how well it works. I find several
> documents that give hearsay comments that it might be slow, but no metrics
> to show what they mean. I have seen that it seems to be around
> 2.5 to 4 times slower that buildroot, and even worse running on a VM, but
> due to my lack of experience with OE, it could be a configuration error on
my
> part. I am working with the Arago group on that.
> 
> Does anyone have a board configuration for the Omap3503 EVM for
> buildroot? It would help a lot if I could show my management a working
build
> really quickly. I need the target/device files and Omap patches in a
working
> build. I am not being given any time to work on this because Arago
"works".

From my experience with a mini2440 board it seems that the quickest route is
to get a kernel patch and get that building/running using buildroot, then
work on the root filesystem. All I had to do was select my architecture
(arm920) and choose some packages to build.

Good Luck!


Paul.

[Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM

[Michael S. Zick]

On Mon May 24 2010, Paul Jones wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: buildroot-bounces at busybox.net [mailto:buildroot-
> > bounces at busybox.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bouterse
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 6:24 AM
> > To: buildroot at busybox.net
> > Subject: [Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM
> > 
> > Sorry everone, this is a bit of complaining from me, with a hope that
> there is
> > someone that can give me either help to configure Buildroot for an
> > Omap3530 EVM board, or hard measurements that I can use to show my
> > Management (and TI) that OE is slow and will cost us development time.
> > 
> > Here is my problem:
> > We are beginning a new project, an have decided to use the Omap3530 EVM
> > board to begin development on. We do not know if we will go to market with
> > the OMAP or some other processor at this time.
> > Seems like the entire Omap Open Source Community has jumped to using
> > OpenEmbedded with no consideration for how well it works. I find several
> > documents that give hearsay comments that it might be slow, but no metrics
> > to show what they mean. I have seen that it seems to be around
> > 2.5 to 4 times slower that buildroot, and even worse running on a VM, but
> > due to my lack of experience with OE, it could be a configuration error on
> my
> > part. I am working with the Arago group on that.
> > 
> > Does anyone have a board configuration for the Omap3503 EVM for
> > buildroot? It would help a lot if I could show my management a working
> build

Check on the recently posted patch to add support for the Beagleboard
to Buildroot.  The Beagleboard uses an Omap3530.

I admit that I didn't read the patch, but any new board should have 
a defconfig file as part of its addition to Buildroot.

Mike
> > really quickly. I need the target/device files and Omap patches in a
> working
> > build. I am not being given any time to work on this because Arago
> "works".
> 
> >From my experience with a mini2440 board it seems that the quickest route is
> to get a kernel patch and get that building/running using buildroot, then
> work on the root filesystem. All I had to do was select my architecture
> (arm920) and choose some packages to build.
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> 
> Paul.
> 
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> 
> 

[Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM

[Michael S. Zick]

On Mon May 24 2010, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> On Mon May 24 2010, Paul Jones wrote:
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: buildroot-bounces at busybox.net [mailto:buildroot-
> > > bounces at busybox.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bouterse
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 6:24 AM
> > > To: buildroot at busybox.net
> > > Subject: [Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM
> > > 
> > > Sorry everone, this is a bit of complaining from me, with a hope that
> > there is
> > > someone that can give me either help to configure Buildroot for an
> > > Omap3530 EVM board, or hard measurements that I can use to show my
> > > Management (and TI) that OE is slow and will cost us development time.
> > > 
> > > Here is my problem:
> > > We are beginning a new project, an have decided to use the Omap3530 EVM
> > > board to begin development on. We do not know if we will go to market with
> > > the OMAP or some other processor at this time.
> > > Seems like the entire Omap Open Source Community has jumped to using
> > > OpenEmbedded with no consideration for how well it works. I find several
> > > documents that give hearsay comments that it might be slow, but no metrics
> > > to show what they mean. I have seen that it seems to be around
> > > 2.5 to 4 times slower that buildroot, and even worse running on a VM, but
> > > due to my lack of experience with OE, it could be a configuration error on
> > my
> > > part. I am working with the Arago group on that.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have a board configuration for the Omap3503 EVM for
> > > buildroot? It would help a lot if I could show my management a working
> > build
> 
> Check on the recently posted patch to add support for the Beagleboard
> to Buildroot.  The Beagleboard uses an Omap3530.
> 
> I admit that I didn't read the patch, but any new board should have 
> a defconfig file as part of its addition to Buildroot.
> 

Yup, there is a defconfig listed:
http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2010-May/034598.html

Mike
> Mike
> > > really quickly. I need the target/device files and Omap patches in a
> > working
> > > build. I am not being given any time to work on this because Arago
> > "works".
> > 
> > >From my experience with a mini2440 board it seems that the quickest route is
> > to get a kernel patch and get that building/running using buildroot, then
> > work on the root filesystem. All I had to do was select my architecture
> > (arm920) and choose some packages to build.
> > 
> > Good Luck!
> > 
> > 
> > Paul.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > buildroot mailing list
> > buildroot at busybox.net
> > http://lists.busybox.net/mailman/listinfo/buildroot
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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[Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM

[Bob Bouterse]

Thank you all,
I will try those extensions today.

On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 18:09 -0500, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> On Mon May 24 2010, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> > On Mon May 24 2010, Paul Jones wrote:
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: buildroot-bounces at busybox.net [mailto:buildroot-
> > > > bounces at busybox.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bouterse
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 6:24 AM
> > > > To: buildroot at busybox.net
> > > > Subject: [Buildroot] Help with configuring Buildroot for the Omap3530 EVM
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry everone, this is a bit of complaining from me, with a hope that
> > > there is
> > > > someone that can give me either help to configure Buildroot for an
> > > > Omap3530 EVM board, or hard measurements that I can use to show my
> > > > Management (and TI) that OE is slow and will cost us development time.
> > > > 
> > > > Here is my problem:
> > > > We are beginning a new project, an have decided to use the Omap3530 EVM
> > > > board to begin development on. We do not know if we will go to market with
> > > > the OMAP or some other processor at this time.
> > > > Seems like the entire Omap Open Source Community has jumped to using
> > > > OpenEmbedded with no consideration for how well it works. I find several
> > > > documents that give hearsay comments that it might be slow, but no metrics
> > > > to show what they mean. I have seen that it seems to be around
> > > > 2.5 to 4 times slower that buildroot, and even worse running on a VM, but
> > > > due to my lack of experience with OE, it could be a configuration error on
> > > my
> > > > part. I am working with the Arago group on that.
> > > > 
> > > > Does anyone have a board configuration for the Omap3503 EVM for
> > > > buildroot? It would help a lot if I could show my management a working
> > > build
> > 
> > Check on the recently posted patch to add support for the Beagleboard
> > to Buildroot.  The Beagleboard uses an Omap3530.
> > 
> > I admit that I didn't read the patch, but any new board should have 
> > a defconfig file as part of its addition to Buildroot.
> > 
> 
> Yup, there is a defconfig listed:
> http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2010-May/034598.html
> 
> Mike
> > Mike
> > > > really quickly. I need the target/device files and Omap patches in a
> > > working
> > > > build. I am not being given any time to work on this because Arago
> > > "works".
> > > 
> > > >From my experience with a mini2440 board it seems that the quickest route is
> > > to get a kernel patch and get that building/running using buildroot, then
> > > work on the root filesystem. All I had to do was select my architecture
> > > (arm920) and choose some packages to build.
> > > 
> > > Good Luck!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul.
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > buildroot mailing list
> > > buildroot at busybox.net
> > > http://lists.busybox.net/mailman/listinfo/buildroot
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
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