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From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] What to do about systemd/udev/eudev?
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:17:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130304211743.7ff322e9@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130304204731.3134cc5b569baf8ffeb5d3b0@kinali.ch>

Dear Attila Kinali,

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:47:31 +0100, Attila Kinali wrote:

> How about
>   (3) Wait a couple of months to see where this whole udev mess goes to.
> 
> eudev is still pretty young and got started on the wrong foot (see the
> the very poor presentation at FOSDEM). How Lennart and Kai are treating
> non-systemd users is pretty much nazi like, IMHO and shows a great lack
> of understanding how diverse the linux ecosystem is. Not only do we have
> a lot of people who want a slim system that is easy to debug, there are
> also enough people who need to squeeze out every kB they can get. And
> these are left out by the current systemd development, because it doesn't
> fit into the vision of Lennart and Kai. 

Why the heck would people caring about every KB use udev in the first
place? Once again, we already have static /dev, devtmpfs and mdev
support, and those are *way* more lightweight than udev.

> So, to come back to the original issue, i would say just freeze the current
> version and wait a couple of months until it either becomes clear what will
> happen or incompatibilites force you to upgrade.

Our udev version is 182, released March 2012, almost a year ago.
Our systemd version is 44, released March 2012, almost a year ago.

I think we've already waited 12 months. Isn't that enough?

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-04 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-03 12:09 [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] Updated systemd to version 197 Olivier Schonken
2013-03-03 18:54 ` [Buildroot] What to do about systemd/udev/eudev? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-04 10:16   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-04 10:53     ` Lionel Orry
2013-03-04 18:12       ` Stefan Fröberg
2013-03-04 18:21         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-04 18:25           ` Stefan Fröberg
2013-03-04 18:30             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-05 18:08               ` Stefan Fröberg
2013-03-05 18:51                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-05  8:21           ` Rob Landley
2013-03-05 15:04             ` Charles Krinke
2013-03-05 18:15               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06  4:22               ` Rob Landley
2013-03-04 18:37         ` Baruch Siach
2013-03-04 19:08           ` Stefan Fröberg
2013-03-04 19:30             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-03-05  8:24           ` Rob Landley
2013-03-05  6:40     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-03-05 18:55       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06  7:52         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-03-06  8:24           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06  8:40             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-03-04 19:31   ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-03-04 19:52     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-04 20:14       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-04 19:47   ` Attila Kinali
2013-03-04 20:17     ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2013-03-05  9:53       ` Attila Kinali
2013-03-05 18:19         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-05 18:37           ` Stefan Fröberg
2013-03-07 18:45 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] Updated systemd to version 197 Stefan Fröberg
2013-03-07 19:20   ` Stefan Fröberg

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