[Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Afshin Pir]

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Hi

I wonder when http://sources.buildroot.org is updated normally. Because from what I see, it is normally updates pretty quickly when packages are changed, but there has been no update for last 2 weeks while some packages like openssh have been updated.

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Afshin
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot]

Hello Afshin,

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 04:36:24 +0000
Afshin Pir <Afshin.Pir@gallagher.com> wrote:

> I wonder when http://sources.buildroot.org is updated normally.
> Because from what I see, it is normally updates pretty quickly when
> packages are changed, but there has been no update for last 2 weeks
> while some packages like openssh have been updated.

It is normally updated constantly. I see right now the script from
Peter Korsgaard is running on the machine to do the update. But I
indeed see in http://sources.buildroot.net/openssh/ that the latest
openssh version is not there even though the bump was done quite some
time ago. I'll try to see what's going on, though it's usually Peter
that takes care of maintaining this part of the infrastructure, so I'm
not super familiar with it.

Best regards,

Thomas
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Afshin Pir]

Thanks a lot for the update.

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Hello Afshin,

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 04:36:24 +0000
Afshin Pir <Afshin.Pir@gallagher.com> wrote:

> I wonder when http://sources.buildroot.org is updated normally.
> Because from what I see, it is normally updates pretty quickly when
> packages are changed, but there has been no update for last 2 weeks
> while some packages like openssh have been updated.

It is normally updated constantly. I see right now the script from Peter Korsgaard is running on the machine to do the update. But I indeed see in http://sources.buildroot.net/openssh/ that the latest openssh version is not there even though the bump was done quite some time ago. I'll try to see what's going on, though it's usually Peter that takes care of maintaining this part of the infrastructure, so I'm not super familiar with it.

Best regards,

Thomas
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Afshin Pir]

Hi,

I wonder if you have found out the problem and is there any ETA for when it will be resolved?

Thanks a lot.

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Hello Afshin,

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 04:36:24 +0000
Afshin Pir <Afshin.Pir@gallagher.com> wrote:

> I wonder when http://sources.buildroot.org is updated normally.
> Because from what I see, it is normally updates pretty quickly when
> packages are changed, but there has been no update for last 2 weeks
> while some packages like openssh have been updated.

It is normally updated constantly. I see right now the script from Peter Korsgaard is running on the machine to do the update. But I indeed see in http://sources.buildroot.net/openssh/ that the latest openssh version is not there even though the bump was done quite some time ago. I'll try to see what's going on, though it's usually Peter that takes care of maintaining this part of the infrastructure, so I'm not super familiar with it.

Best regards,

Thomas
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Yann E. MORIN]

Afshin, All,

On 2023-08-02 22:30 +0000, Afshin Pir spake thusly:
> I wonder if you have found out the problem and is there any ETA for
> when it will be resolved?

There is no ETA yet, we are looking into the issue.

The main (and sole) purpose for s.b.o. is to provide a backup in case
some upstream tarballs disappear. As I understand it, you are looking
for the openssh archives, but those are still available upstream, and
they stillmatch the expected hashes, so there should be no reason for
it to be downloaded from s.b.o. Why are you so eager to have s.b.o.
up-to-date?

Besides, s.b.o. is a best effort, and there is no guarantee ever that
was expressed over its availability or reliability.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

> Thanks a lot.
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 10:11 PM
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> Hello Afshin,
> 
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 04:36:24 +0000
> Afshin Pir <Afshin.Pir@gallagher.com> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder when http://sources.buildroot.org is updated normally.
> > Because from what I see, it is normally updates pretty quickly when
> > packages are changed, but there has been no update for last 2 weeks
> > while some packages like openssh have been updated.
> 
> It is normally updated constantly. I see right now the script from Peter Korsgaard is running on the machine to do the update. But I indeed see in http://sources.buildroot.net/openssh/ that the latest openssh version is not there even though the bump was done quite some time ago. I'll try to see what's going on, though it's usually Peter that takes care of maintaining this part of the infrastructure, so I'm not super familiar with it.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Thomas
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Peter Korsgaard]

>>>>> "Afshin" == Afshin Pir <Afshin.Pir@gallagher.com> writes:

 > Hi,

 > I wonder if you have found out the problem and is there any ETA for
 > when it will be resolved?

I'm back and now had time to investigate. The problem is the following
commit that got added at the end of July:

commit 08171f1fd0c31165a39d79389300ddf9adb5bbb6
Author: Bernd Kuhls <bernd@kuhls.net>
Date:   Sun Jul 16 09:28:33 2023 +0200

    support/dependencies/dependencies.sh: require IPC::Cmd perl package for libopenssl

The machine handling s.b.o did not have the IPC::Cmd perl module
installed, so all the source update runs would fail. I've now installed
that and started a s.b.o update.

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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot]

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:10:24 +0200
Peter Korsgaard <peter@korsgaard.com> wrote:

> I'm back and now had time to investigate. The problem is the following
> commit that got added at the end of July:
> 
> commit 08171f1fd0c31165a39d79389300ddf9adb5bbb6
> Author: Bernd Kuhls <bernd@kuhls.net>
> Date:   Sun Jul 16 09:28:33 2023 +0200
> 
>     support/dependencies/dependencies.sh: require IPC::Cmd perl package for libopenssl
> 
> The machine handling s.b.o did not have the IPC::Cmd perl module
> installed, so all the source update runs would fail. I've now installed
> that and started a s.b.o update.

Thanks for fixing this!

Do you think the script could somehow be robustified to let us know
when it doesn't manage to do its job as expected?

Thomas
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Peter Korsgaard]

>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com> writes:

Hi,

 >> The machine handling s.b.o did not have the IPC::Cmd perl module
 >> installed, so all the source update runs would fail. I've now installed
 >> that and started a s.b.o update.

 > Thanks for fixing this!

 > Do you think the script could somehow be robustified to let us know
 > when it doesn't manage to do its job as expected?

It is unfortunately not right away clear to me how we can do that - Make
source can fail for all kind of reasons.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot]

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:23:53 +0200
Peter Korsgaard <peter@korsgaard.com> wrote:

> It is unfortunately not right away clear to me how we can do that - Make
> source can fail for all kind of reasons.
> 
> Any ideas?

You could run "make busybox-source" first, to see if at least we're
able to source a well known package that's known to work. If that fails
(it would have failed with the missing Perl thing), we can abort and
notify us.

Thomas
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Re: [Buildroot] Update schedule of sources.buildroot.org

[Peter Korsgaard]

>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com> writes:

 > On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:23:53 +0200
 > Peter Korsgaard <peter@korsgaard.com> wrote:

 >> It is unfortunately not right away clear to me how we can do that - Make
 >> source can fail for all kind of reasons.
 >> 
 >> Any ideas?

 > You could run "make busybox-source" first, to see if at least we're
 > able to source a well known package that's known to work. If that fails
 > (it would have failed with the missing Perl thing), we can abort and
 > notify us.

Ah yes, I will have a look at implementing something like that.

I BTW noticed that host-ccache no longer builds since the bump to 4.7.4
(in 2023.05). According to
https://ccache.dev/platform-compiler-language-support.html it needs
GCC >= 8, and the machine uses GCC 4.8.5.

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