[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Michael Burghart]

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Hi,

I want to design my own templates for directories and files (fstab etc).
Where do I set this? I thought it's in ./fs/skeleton. But obviously not
for every file..

Why this?

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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Michael Burghart]

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Hi once again,

Am 11.04.2011 22:10, schrieb Michael Burghart:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to design my own templates for directories and files (fstab etc).
> Where do I set this? I thought it's in ./fs/skeleton. But obviously not
> for every file..
> 
> Why this?

I set this in .config:

BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM=y
BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM_PATH="/Save/buildroot-2011.02/fs/skeleton"


but it's not used! I made special directories and files in the
fs/skeleton but they are nowhere to be seen. What do I have to do to
make them visible??

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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Bjørn Forsman]

On 11 April 2011 22:52, Michael Burghart <mb@michaelburghart.de> wrote:
> Am 11.04.2011 22:10, schrieb Michael Burghart:
> I set this in .config:
>
> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM=y
> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM_PATH="/Save/buildroot-2011.02/fs/skeleton"
>
>
> but it's not used! I made special directories and files in the
> fs/skeleton but they are nowhere to be seen. What do I have to do to
> make them visible??

Buildroot has a quirk: the rootfs skeleton is copied to the target dir
only once(!). If you change any files in ./fs/skeleton (or your custom
path) you have to do "make clean" and start over (or hack the
Makefile, around line 420...).

Best regards,
Bj?rn Forsman

[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Michael J. Hammel]

On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 23:14 +0200, Bj?rn Forsman wrote:
> Buildroot has a quirk: the rootfs skeleton is copied to the target dir
> only once(!). If you change any files in ./fs/skeleton (or your custom
> path) you have to do "make clean" and start over (or hack the
> Makefile, around line 420...).

I've been copying the skeleton to the "customize" package (re:
package/customize/source), removing output/build/.root and rerunning the
make.  I think this will recopy the skeleton I updated before generating
the fs image, but without having to recompile everything.  You just have
to have the customize package enabled.

I say this with only modest confidence - I don't remember checking if it
*actually* ran the custom package build again but I was pretty sure it
did.  That was how I was picking up skeleton changes from my build
system.

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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> Buildroot has a quirk: the rootfs skeleton is copied to the target dir
> only once(!). If you change any files in ./fs/skeleton (or your custom
> path) you have to do "make clean" and start over (or hack the
> Makefile, around line 420...).
It's not a quirk. I always thought its designed like that. You should
work and modify files in directory buildroot/output/target, shouldn't
you?

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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Bjørn Forsman]

On 12 April 2011 08:42, Patryk Benderz <Patryk.Benderz@esp.pl> wrote:
> [cut]
>> Buildroot has a quirk: the rootfs skeleton is copied to the target dir
>> only once(!). If you change any files in ./fs/skeleton (or your custom
>> path) you have to do "make clean" and start over (or hack the
>> Makefile, around line 420...).
> It's not a quirk. I always thought its designed like that.

Yes, it's most likely intended.

But why not always copy skeleton to target dir? I think it would be
more user friendly. If you remove stuff from skeleton you will get out
of sync with target dir, but without a package manager that
out-of-sync problem is inevitable (unless doing full "make clean &&
make".. painfully slow for small skeleton changes). And there *is*
currently an out-of-sync problem in that changes to ./fs/skeleton is
not copied to target dir. And that is confusing.

I think it is more common to *change* skeleton files than to remove,
so I would definitely like to see always-copy-skeleton functionality
in Buildroot.

> You should
> work and modify files in directory buildroot/output/target, shouldn't
> you?

If you meant "you should not modify files in buildroot/output/target"
then yes. That directory is the output of builds and "make clean" will
destroy it.

Best regards,
Bj?rn Forsman

[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Daniele Salvatore Albano]

Il 11/04/2011 22:52, Michael Burghart ha scritto:
> I set this in .config:
>
> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM=y
> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM_PATH="/Save/buildroot-2011.02/fs/skeleton"
>
>
> but it's not used! I made special directories and files in the
> fs/skeleton but they are nowhere to be seen. What do I have to do to
> make them visible??

You need to do a full rebuild or just copy changed/updated files to the 
target directory (target) and rebuild/regenerate filesystems

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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Steve Calfee]

On 04/11/11 14:20, Daniele Salvatore Albano wrote:
> Il 11/04/2011 22:52, Michael Burghart ha scritto:
>> I set this in .config:
>>
>> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM=y
>> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM_PATH="/Save/buildroot-2011.02/fs/skeleton"
>>
>>
>> but it's not used! I made special directories and files in the
>> fs/skeleton but they are nowhere to be seen. What do I have to do to
>> make them visible??
> 
> You need to do a full rebuild or just copy changed/updated files to the 
> target directory (target) and rebuild/regenerate filesystems
> 
Or you can use the
 BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT:
  ? Specify a script to be run after the build has finished and before
    ?
  ? the BR2 starts packing the files into selected packages.
    ?
    ? This gives users the oportunity to do board-specific cleanups,
      ?
  ? add-ons and the like, so the generated files can be used directly
    ?
  ? without further processing.
    ?
    ? The script is called with the target directory name as first and
      ?
  ? only argument. Make sure the exit code of that script is 0,
    ?
  ? otherwise make will stop after calling it.
    ?

  ? Symbol: BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT
[=$(TOPDIR)/target/device/beaglebo ?
  ? Type  : string
    ?
  ? Prompt: Custom script to run before packing files
    ?
  ?   Defined at fs/Config.in:3
    ?
  ?   Location:
    ?
  ?     -> Target filesystem options
    ?

Sorry about the mess in the cut and paste from buildroot's menuconfig.


Mine patchrootfs is:
#!/bin/bash
#
# skript which runs before creating rootfs
#
#
MAINDIR=${1}/../../
SRCDIR=${MAINDIR}"target/device/beagleboard/skeleton/*"
DESTDIR=${1}
echo "***************patching some stuff in " ${DESTDIR} from ${SRCDIR}
#echo "DESTDIR " ${DESTDIR}
#echo "SRCDIR " ${SRCDIR}
#ls -l ${SRCDIR} ${SRCDIR}"/etc"
cp -rvp ${SRCDIR} ${DESTDIR}
echo "end of userdefined script before packing rootfs"

So this copies the fs skeleton, recursively from the local directory
after every build. The trick is it just overlays the fs in the target,
so you only have to add files that are specific or changed in your
build. So if you tweak an existing file say in /etc, it will replace
that file. If you add a new file (maybe a script) say in /usr/bin it
will add that from your local tree into the build. The local skeleton
should stay very sparse.

There is no way to remove files that are not needed etc, just remove
them locally in your skeleton and when buildroot is remade with a clean
it will get all sorted out.

Regards, Steve

[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Michael S. Zick]

On Mon April 11 2011, Steve Calfee wrote:
> On 04/11/11 14:20, Daniele Salvatore Albano wrote:
> > Il 11/04/2011 22:52, Michael Burghart ha scritto:
> >> I set this in .config:
> >>
> >> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM=y
> >> BR2_ROOTFS_SKELETON_CUSTOM_PATH="/Save/buildroot-2011.02/fs/skeleton"
> >>
> >>
> >> but it's not used! I made special directories and files in the
> >> fs/skeleton but they are nowhere to be seen. What do I have to do to
> >> make them visible??
> > 
> > You need to do a full rebuild or just copy changed/updated files to the 
> > target directory (target) and rebuild/regenerate filesystems
> > 
> Or you can use the
>  BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT:
>   ? Specify a script to be run after the build has finished and before
>     ?
>   ? the BR2 starts packing the files into selected packages.
>     ?
>     ? This gives users the oportunity to do board-specific cleanups,
>       ?
>   ? add-ons and the like, so the generated files can be used directly
>     ?
>   ? without further processing.
>     ?
>     ? The script is called with the target directory name as first and
>       ?
>   ? only argument. Make sure the exit code of that script is 0,
>     ?
>   ? otherwise make will stop after calling it.
>     ?
> 
>   ? Symbol: BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT
> [=$(TOPDIR)/target/device/beaglebo ?
>   ? Type  : string
>     ?
>   ? Prompt: Custom script to run before packing files
>     ?
>   ?   Defined at fs/Config.in:3
>     ?
>   ?   Location:
>     ?
>   ?     -> Target filesystem options
>     ?
> 
> Sorry about the mess in the cut and paste from buildroot's menuconfig.
> 
> 
> Mine patchrootfs is:
> #!/bin/bash
> #
> # skript which runs before creating rootfs
> #
> #
> MAINDIR=${1}/../../
> SRCDIR=${MAINDIR}"target/device/beagleboard/skeleton/*"
> DESTDIR=${1}
> echo "***************patching some stuff in " ${DESTDIR} from ${SRCDIR}
> #echo "DESTDIR " ${DESTDIR}
> #echo "SRCDIR " ${SRCDIR}
> #ls -l ${SRCDIR} ${SRCDIR}"/etc"
> cp -rvp ${SRCDIR} ${DESTDIR}
> echo "end of userdefined script before packing rootfs"
> 
> So this copies the fs skeleton, recursively from the local directory
> after every build. The trick is it just overlays the fs in the target,
> so you only have to add files that are specific or changed in your
> build. So if you tweak an existing file say in /etc, it will replace
> that file. If you add a new file (maybe a script) say in /usr/bin it
> will add that from your local tree into the build. The local skeleton
> should stay very sparse.
> 
> There is no way to remove files that are not needed etc, just remove
> them locally in your skeleton and when buildroot is remade with a clean
> it will get all sorted out.
> 

Would using rsync with appropriate options instead of cp do that trick?

Mike
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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Steve Calfee]

On 04/12/11 06:01, Michael S. Zick wrote:
>> Mine patchrootfs is:
>> #!/bin/bash
>> #
>> # skript which runs before creating rootfs
>> #
>> #
>> MAINDIR=${1}/../../
>> SRCDIR=${MAINDIR}"target/device/beagleboard/skeleton/*"
>> DESTDIR=${1}
>> echo "***************patching some stuff in " ${DESTDIR} from ${SRCDIR}
>> #echo "DESTDIR " ${DESTDIR}
>> #echo "SRCDIR " ${SRCDIR}
>> #ls -l ${SRCDIR} ${SRCDIR}"/etc"
>> cp -rvp ${SRCDIR} ${DESTDIR}
>> echo "end of userdefined script before packing rootfs"
>>
>> So this copies the fs skeleton, recursively from the local directory
>> after every build. The trick is it just overlays the fs in the target,
>> so you only have to add files that are specific or changed in your
>> build. So if you tweak an existing file say in /etc, it will replace
>> that file. If you add a new file (maybe a script) say in /usr/bin it
>> will add that from your local tree into the build. The local skeleton
>> should stay very sparse.
>>
>> There is no way to remove files that are not needed etc, just remove
>> them locally in your skeleton and when buildroot is remade with a clean
>> it will get all sorted out.
>>
> 
> Would using rsync with appropriate options instead of cp do that trick?
> 
> Mike

Hi Mike,

Maybe, but I think you would have to have an entire tree in your local
directory, my goal was to have as few board specific files as necessary.
I haven't actually found it much of a problem growing litter in the file
system. And if it is I can always do the buildroot "make clean".

Regards, Steve

[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Thomas Petazzoni]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:06:03 -0700
Steve Calfee <stevecalfee@gmail.com> wrote:

>  BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT

That's also what I use. Instead of making modifications to
fs/skeleton/, or completely duplicating that skeleton, my post build
script :

 *) Copies some additional files (which I typically store and version
    control in board/<mycompany>/<myproduct>)

 *) Adjust some files from the skeleton. It does this in a way that
    allows to re-run make several times without screwing things. For
    example, if I need to add a new line at the end of a file
    (like /etc/fstab), I first test that this line hasn't already been
    added, in order to avoid duplicates.

This technique has several advantages :

 *) You don't change the default skeleton, which would mess things up
    next time you upgrade Buildroot ;

 *) You don't duplicate the entire default skeleton, which prevents you
    from taking advantages of new things in the skeleton if you upgrade
    Buildroot ;

 *) As the post build script is executed at every 'make' invocation,
    you don't have to 'make clean ; make' to see the effect of your post
    build script changes.

Regards,

Thomas
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[Buildroot] which templates are used?

[Bjørn Forsman]

On 19 April 2011 22:25, Thomas Petazzoni
<thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:06:03 -0700
> Steve Calfee <stevecalfee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ?BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT
>
> That's also what I use. Instead of making modifications to
> fs/skeleton/, or completely duplicating that skeleton, my post build
> script :

I currently use git branches and edit fs/skeleton in each branch. I have
one branch per project. I think this setup has some nice properties:

> ?*) Adjust some files from the skeleton. It does this in a way that
> ? ?allows to re-run make several times without screwing things. For
> ? ?example, if I need to add a new line at the end of a file
> ? ?(like /etc/fstab), I first test that this line hasn't already been
> ? ?added, in order to avoid duplicates.

Automatically handled (or non-existent problem) if using fs/skeleton with
git branches.

> This technique has several advantages :
>
> ?*) You don't change the default skeleton, which would mess things up
> ? ?next time you upgrade Buildroot ;

Why is it messy?

Using git branches you will be notified of conflicts. Upgrades are safe.
If, on the other hand, the post build script is used to edits skeleton
files you may end up with undetected conflicts after a skeleton upgrade
(unsafe).

> ?*) As the post build script is executed at every 'make' invocation,
> ? ?you don't have to 'make clean ; make' to see the effect of your post
> ? ?build script changes.

I've modified the top Makefile so that fs/skeleton is copied to target dir
on every 'make' (patches sent to list[1]).

It may be seen as a downside that this approach is only
one-project-per-branch. But I find that there are already differences
between projects, not only in the skeleton files, so I use one branch per
project anyway.

Are there any (other) downsides to this approach I may have missed?

[1]: http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2011-March/041685.html

Best regards,
Bj?rn Forsman