[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Yann E. MORIN]

Hello All!

The date for the next Buildroot Developpers' Days (BDD) is getting closer
with each passing minute. ;-)

Adding items to the list is not limited to participants. Even if you do
not intend to be present, or can not be, and if you have ideas about
things we can discuss during this session, please feel free to complete
the list.

I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
during this event, list which you may find there (needs registration
to the Wiki first):
    http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Hello all,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:39:41 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:

> The date for the next Buildroot Developpers' Days (BDD) is getting
> closer with each passing minute. ;-)

Indeed. We are for the moment 6 participants. If there are other
persons interested in participating, we can host up to 8 persons. For
the record, it's taking place on Saturday 26th and Sunday 27th of
October in Edinburgh.

> Adding items to the list is not limited to participants. Even if you
> do not intend to be present, or can not be, and if you have ideas
> about things we can discuss during this session, please feel free to
> complete the list.
> 
> I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
> during this event, list which you may find there (needs registration
> to the Wiki first):
>     http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013

I've added a few topics. I'll think about some more.

Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the meeting,
to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
interested in participating remotely?

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Luca Ceresoli]

Hi Thomas,

Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:39:41 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
>
>> The date for the next Buildroot Developpers' Days (BDD) is getting
>> closer with each passing minute. ;-)
>
> Indeed. We are for the moment 6 participants. If there are other
> persons interested in participating, we can host up to 8 persons. For
> the record, it's taking place on Saturday 26th and Sunday 27th of
> October in Edinburgh.
>
>> Adding items to the list is not limited to participants. Even if you
>> do not intend to be present, or can not be, and if you have ideas
>> about things we can discuss during this session, please feel free to
>> complete the list.
>>
>> I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
>> during this event, list which you may find there (needs registration
>> to the Wiki first):
>>      http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013
>
> I've added a few topics. I'll think about some more.
>
> Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the meeting,
> to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
> interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
> interested in participating remotely?

This year I'll be at ELC-E, but unfortunately not at the BDD.

If there were a chance to follow your discussion remotely, I'd try join
at least a little time in the afternoon (not in the morning, I'm flying
back home from Edinburgh).

I would particularly be interested in understanding Yann's
"buildroot.config" proposal.

But don't set it up for me alone, I'm not even sure I'll be able to
connect!

--
Luca

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Dear Luca Ceresoli,

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:25:45 +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:

> > Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the
> > meeting, to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is
> > there any interest in doing that, from the perspective of people
> > that would be interested in participating remotely?
> 
> This year I'll be at ELC-E, but unfortunately not at the BDD.

Aah, too bad :-(

> If there were a chance to follow your discussion remotely, I'd try
> join at least a little time in the afternoon (not in the morning, I'm
> flying back home from Edinburgh).
> 
> I would particularly be interested in understanding Yann's
> "buildroot.config" proposal.
> 
> But don't set it up for me alone, I'm not even sure I'll be able to
> connect!

Ok. But we know we have at least one person interested. We'll see if
there are other persons interested.

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Thomas P, All,

Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote on 
10/17/2013 07:32:09 AM:

> Hello all,
> 
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:39:41 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> 
> > The date for the next Buildroot Developpers' Days (BDD) is getting
> > closer with each passing minute. ;-)
> 
> Indeed. We are for the moment 6 participants. If there are other
> persons interested in participating, we can host up to 8 persons. For
> the record, it's taking place on Saturday 26th and Sunday 27th of
> October in Edinburgh.
> 
> > Adding items to the list is not limited to participants. Even if you
> > do not intend to be present, or can not be, and if you have ideas
> > about things we can discuss during this session, please feel free to
> > complete the list.
> > 
> > I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
> > during this event, list which you may find there (needs registration
> > to the Wiki first):
> >     http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013

I see that our SELinux patchsets have now made the list of topic 
discussions.

> I've added a few topics. I'll think about some more.
> 
> Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the meeting,
> to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
> interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
> interested in participating remotely?

I would be interested in this, however, discussion that happens early
in the day will be difficult for me to attend since it would 3:30am CDT 
(UTC-05:00) when the meeting begins at 9:30 am (Edinburgh Time). However,
I could join later. I would probably be able to join around 6am to 
6:30am CDT. So if discussion surrounding BR2_EXTERNAL, SELinux Related 
Packages and Yann's buildroot.config could hold off until then I would
be willing to participate via a Google Hangout. If we setup a specific
time for the SELinux related packages, I can probably see if I can't
convince Clayton Shotwell to also attend.

Thanks,
-Ryan

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MS 137-157, 855 35th St NE, Cedar Rapids, IA, 52498-3161, US
rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Dear Ryan Barnett,

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:51:02 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:

> > > I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
> > > during this event, list which you may find there (needs registration
> > > to the Wiki first):
> > >     http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013
> 
> I see that our SELinux patchsets have now made the list of topic 
> discussions.

Yes. However, I am not sure the discussion at the Buildroot meeting
will really lead to something special. Up to now, there is nothing
controversial / problematic about these patches. They just need to be
reviewed, and progressively merged. The most "controversial" issues
will probably arise when we start working on the real SELinux
integration, not just the packages themselves. But we have another
Buildroot meeting at FOSDEM for this :-)

> I would be interested in this, however, discussion that happens early
> in the day will be difficult for me to attend since it would 3:30am CDT 
> (UTC-05:00) when the meeting begins at 9:30 am (Edinburgh Time). However,
> I could join later. I would probably be able to join around 6am to 
> 6:30am CDT. So if discussion surrounding BR2_EXTERNAL, SELinux Related 
> Packages and Yann's buildroot.config could hold off until then I would
> be willing to participate via a Google Hangout. If we setup a specific
> time for the SELinux related packages, I can probably see if I can't
> convince Clayton Shotwell to also attend.

Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, and
if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
discussion.

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Jesse Cobra]

I would not mind joining hangouts to see Yann's presentation.
That said I am -5 EST so I could only watch if it is later in the day in
Edinburgh, my morning...

-Jesse


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Thomas Petazzoni <
thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote:

> Dear Ryan Barnett,
>
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:51:02 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:
>
> > > > I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
> > > > during this event, list which you may find there (needs registration
> > > > to the Wiki first):
> > > >     http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013
> >
> > I see that our SELinux patchsets have now made the list of topic
> > discussions.
>
> Yes. However, I am not sure the discussion at the Buildroot meeting
> will really lead to something special. Up to now, there is nothing
> controversial / problematic about these patches. They just need to be
> reviewed, and progressively merged. The most "controversial" issues
> will probably arise when we start working on the real SELinux
> integration, not just the packages themselves. But we have another
> Buildroot meeting at FOSDEM for this :-)
>
> > I would be interested in this, however, discussion that happens early
> > in the day will be difficult for me to attend since it would 3:30am CDT
> > (UTC-05:00) when the meeting begins at 9:30 am (Edinburgh Time). However,
> > I could join later. I would probably be able to join around 6am to
> > 6:30am CDT. So if discussion surrounding BR2_EXTERNAL, SELinux Related
> > Packages and Yann's buildroot.config could hold off until then I would
> > be willing to participate via a Google Hangout. If we setup a specific
> > time for the SELinux related packages, I can probably see if I can't
> > convince Clayton Shotwell to also attend.
>
> Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, and
> if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
> discussion.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas
> --
> Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
> Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
> http://free-electrons.com
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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Yann E. MORIN]

Jesse, All,

On 2013-10-17 11:28 -0400, Jesse Cobra spake thusly:
> I would not mind joining hangouts to see Yann's presentation.

He! I was not planning on doing an actual presentation with slides or
anything like that! :-)

But since it seems a few people are actually interested in br.config,
I'll try to prepare something more-or-less structured as an intro.
But don't expect top-of-the-class slides! ;-)

> That said I am -5 EST so I could only watch if it is later in the day in
> Edinburgh, my morning...

With you and Ryan being UTC-5, it looks like we can arrange the schedule
to meet your TZ offset.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Yann,

"Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> wrote on
10/17/2013 03:00:29 PM:

> Jesse, All,
> 
> On 2013-10-17 11:28 -0400, Jesse Cobra spake thusly:
> > I would not mind joining hangouts to see Yann's presentation.
> 
> He! I was not planning on doing an actual presentation with slides or
> anything like that! :-)
>
> But since it seems a few people are actually interested in br.config,
> I'll try to prepare something more-or-less structured as an intro.
> But don't expect top-of-the-class slides! ;-)

Wasn't expect anything formal, just would like to be a part of the
conversation surrounding it and to hear your idea around the project
(more of idea) instead of getting it from a README file :)
 
> > That said I am -5 EST so I could only watch if it is later in the day 
in
> > Edinburgh, my morning...
> 
> With you and Ryan being UTC-5, it looks like we can arrange the schedule
> to meet your TZ offset.
> 
> Regards,
> Yann E. MORIN.

Thanks,
-Ryan

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Thomas P,

Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote 
on 10/17/2013 10:17:54 AM:

> Dear Ryan Barnett,
> 
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:51:02 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:
> 
> > > > I have started adding a few items to the list of topics to address
> > > > during this event, list which you may find there (needs 
registration
> > > > to the Wiki first):
> > > >     http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysELCE2013
> > 
> > I see that our SELinux patchsets have now made the list of topic 
> > discussions.
> 
> Yes. However, I am not sure the discussion at the Buildroot meeting
> will really lead to something special. Up to now, there is nothing
> controversial / problematic about these patches. They just need to be
> reviewed, and progressively merged. The most "controversial" issues
> will probably arise when we start working on the real SELinux
> integration, not just the packages themselves. But we have another
> Buildroot meeting at FOSDEM for this :-)

Understood.
 
> > I would be interested in this, however, discussion that happens early
> > in the day will be difficult for me to attend since it would 3:30am 
CDT 
> > (UTC-05:00) when the meeting begins at 9:30 am (Edinburgh Time). 
However,
> > I could join later. I would probably be able to join around 6am to 
> > 6:30am CDT. So if discussion surrounding BR2_EXTERNAL, SELinux Related 

> > Packages and Yann's buildroot.config could hold off until then I would
> > be willing to participate via a Google Hangout. If we setup a specific
> > time for the SELinux related packages, I can probably see if I can't
> > convince Clayton Shotwell to also attend.
> 
> Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, and
> if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
> discussion.

That sounds good, I'm more interested in being able to listen in on Yann's
buildroot.config and being a part of the discussion for BR2_EXTERNAL.
We (Rockwell Collins) have been starting to use the patchset on some new
projects so I could probably put together something about our experience. 
Would there be interest in hearing about how we are using and how it has
changed our approach to development? So it would be nice if these could be
later or at least have a rough estimate of when they will start.

Thanks,
-Ryan
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[Thomas Petazzoni]

Dear Ryan Barnett,

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:45:24 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:

> > Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, and
> > if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
> > discussion.
> 
> That sounds good, I'm more interested in being able to listen in on Yann's
> buildroot.config and being a part of the discussion for BR2_EXTERNAL.
> We (Rockwell Collins) have been starting to use the patchset on some new
> projects so I could probably put together something about our experience. 
> Would there be interest in hearing about how we are using and how it has
> changed our approach to development? So it would be nice if these could be
> later or at least have a rough estimate of when they will start.

Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.

Would this be ok?

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Thomas P,

Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote on 10/19/2013 
02:56:49 AM:

> Dear Ryan Barnett,
> 
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:45:24 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:
> 
> > > Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, 
and
> > > if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
> > > discussion.
> > 
> > That sounds good, I'm more interested in being able to listen in on 
Yann's
> > buildroot.config and being a part of the discussion for BR2_EXTERNAL.
> > We (Rockwell Collins) have been starting to use the patchset on some 
new
> > projects so I could probably put together something about our 
experience. 
> > Would there be interest in hearing about how we are using and how it 
has
> > changed our approach to development? So it would be nice if these 
could be
> > later or at least have a rough estimate of when they will start.
> 
> Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
> we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
> BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
> Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.
> 
> Would this be ok?

That should work. I will be using my personal GMail account to use the
Google Hangout feature so I will email outside of the mailing list with
this information.

I've also CC'd my co-worker - Clayton Shotwell - as he has expressed 
interest
as well.

> Thomas
> -- 
> Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
> Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
> http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Luca Ceresoli]

Hi Thomas,

Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Dear Ryan Barnett,
>
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:45:24 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:
>
>>> Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, and
>>> if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
>>> discussion.
>>
>> That sounds good, I'm more interested in being able to listen in on Yann's
>> buildroot.config and being a part of the discussion for BR2_EXTERNAL.
>> We (Rockwell Collins) have been starting to use the patchset on some new
>> projects so I could probably put together something about our experience.
>> Would there be interest in hearing about how we are using and how it has
>> changed our approach to development? So it would be nice if these could be
>> later or at least have a rough estimate of when they will start.
>
> Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
> we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
> BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
> Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.

Sure? On Saturday 26 Edinburgh time will still be BST (British Summer 
Time), which is UTC+1, not UTC. That's for DST (daylight saving time) 
which ends one day later, on Sunday 27.

So I guess you really meant:

Edinburgh (BST = UTC+1):   3:00 PM
Rome/Paris (CEST = UTC+2): 4:00 PM (me)
Chicago (CDT = UTC-5):     9:00 AM (Ryan timezone, correct?)

Am I correct?

Oh, look here, that should explain much better: 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=BDD+Hangout&iso=20131026T15&p1=304&ah=1

>
> Would this be ok?

Under the above asumptions, it will.

I'll be available between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM CEST (Italy/France), 
meaning 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST (Edinburgh).

Under the above assumptions, that means I'll have a 1 hour time window 
since the starting time, and leave you at 4:00 PM Edinburgh Time (5:00 
PM Italian time).

-- 
Luca

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Yann E. MORIN]

Luca, All,

On 2013-10-21 00:14 +0200, Luca Ceresoli spake thusly:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> >Dear Ryan Barnett,
> >
> >On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:45:24 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:
> >
> >>>Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, and
> >>>if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for SELinux
> >>>discussion.
> >>
> >>That sounds good, I'm more interested in being able to listen in on Yann's
> >>buildroot.config and being a part of the discussion for BR2_EXTERNAL.
> >>We (Rockwell Collins) have been starting to use the patchset on some new
> >>projects so I could probably put together something about our experience.
> >>Would there be interest in hearing about how we are using and how it has
> >>changed our approach to development? So it would be nice if these could be
> >>later or at least have a rough estimate of when they will start.
> >
> >Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
> >we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
> >BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
> >Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.
> 
> Sure? On Saturday 26 Edinburgh time will still be BST (British Summer Time),
> which is UTC+1, not UTC. That's for DST (daylight saving time) which ends
> one day later, on Sunday 27.
> 
> So I guess you really meant:
> 
> Edinburgh (BST = UTC+1):   3:00 PM
> Rome/Paris (CEST = UTC+2): 4:00 PM (me)
> Chicago (CDT = UTC-5):     9:00 AM (Ryan timezone, correct?)
> 
> Am I correct?
> 
> Oh, look here, that should explain much better: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=BDD+Hangout&iso=20131026T15&p1=304&ah=1
> 
> >
> >Would this be ok?
> 
> Under the above asumptions, it will.
> 
> I'll be available between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM CEST (Italy/France), meaning
> 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST (Edinburgh).
> 
> Under the above assumptions, that means I'll have a 1 hour time window since
> the starting time, and leave you at 4:00 PM Edinburgh Time (5:00 PM Italian
> time).

I guess your time calculations are correct. The time change occurs the
night from Saturday to Sunday, so we'll still be Summer Time on
Saturday, but Winter Time on Sunday (which means we get to sleep one
hour more. Woohoo!).

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Yann, Luca, Thomas P, All

"Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@gmail.com> wrote on 10/21/2013 05:03:21 
PM:

> Luca, All,
> 
> On 2013-10-21 00:14 +0200, Luca Ceresoli spake thusly:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > 
> > Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> > >Dear Ryan Barnett,
> > >
> > >On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:45:24 -0500, Ryan Barnett wrote:
> > >
> > >>>Let's see what happens with the agenda over the course of the WE, 
and
> > >>>if it makes sense, we'll try to schedule a specific time for 
SELinux
> > >>>discussion.
> > >>
> > >>That sounds good, I'm more interested in being able to listen in on 
Yann's
> > >>buildroot.config and being a part of the discussion for 
BR2_EXTERNAL.
> > >>We (Rockwell Collins) have been starting to use the patchset on some 
new
> > >>projects so I could probably put together something about our 
experience.
> > >>Would there be interest in hearing about how we are using and how it 
has
> > >>changed our approach to development? So it would be nice if these 
could be
> > >>later or at least have a rough estimate of when they will start.
> > >
> > >Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
> > >we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
> > >BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
> > >Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.
> > 
> > Sure? On Saturday 26 Edinburgh time will still be BST (British Summer 
Time),
> > which is UTC+1, not UTC. That's for DST (daylight saving time) which 
ends
> > one day later, on Sunday 27.
> > 
> > So I guess you really meant:
> > 
> > Edinburgh (BST = UTC+1):   3:00 PM
> > Rome/Paris (CEST = UTC+2): 4:00 PM (me)
> > Chicago (CDT = UTC-5):     9:00 AM (Ryan timezone, correct?)

Yes CDT/Chicago

> > 
> > Am I correct?
> > 
> > Oh, look here, that should explain much better: 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=BDD+Hangout&iso=20131026T15&p1=304&ah=1

> > 
> > >
> > >Would this be ok?
> > 
> > Under the above asumptions, it will.
> > 
> > I'll be available between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM CEST (Italy/France), 
meaning
> > 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST (Edinburgh).
> > 
> > Under the above assumptions, that means I'll have a 1 hour time window 
since
> > the starting time, and leave you at 4:00 PM Edinburgh Time (5:00 PM 
Italian
> > time).
> 
> I guess your time calculations are correct. The time change occurs the
> night from Saturday to Sunday, so we'll still be Summer Time on
> Saturday, but Winter Time on Sunday (which means we get to sleep one
> hour more. Woohoo!).

Moving it to coincide with Luca's availability would be fine with me.

> Regards,
> Yann E. MORIN.
> 
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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Dear Luca Ceresoli,

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:14:51 +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:

> > Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
> > we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
> > BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
> > Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.
> 
> Sure? On Saturday 26 Edinburgh time will still be BST (British Summer 
> Time), which is UTC+1, not UTC. That's for DST (daylight saving time) 
> which ends one day later, on Sunday 27.
> 
> So I guess you really meant:
> 
> Edinburgh (BST = UTC+1):   3:00 PM
> Rome/Paris (CEST = UTC+2): 4:00 PM (me)
> Chicago (CDT = UTC-5):     9:00 AM (Ryan timezone, correct?)
> 
> Am I correct?

You are. I was under the assumption that Chicago was in the same time
zone as US East Coast, which isn't the case (New York is UTC-5, and
Chicago is UTC-6).

> I'll be available between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM CEST (Italy/France), 
> meaning 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST (Edinburgh).
> 
> Under the above assumptions, that means I'll have a 1 hour time window 
> since the starting time, and leave you at 4:00 PM Edinburgh Time (5:00 
> PM Italian time).

Still good for me, hoping 9:00 AM is not too early for those people in
the US.

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Thomas,

Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote on 
10/22/2013 09:03:18 AM:

> Dear Luca Ceresoli,
> 
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:14:51 +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> 
> > > Ok. Seems like there are at least two interested persons. Let's say
> > > we're going to schedule those two topics (Yann's presentation, and
> > > BR2_EXTERNAL discussion) at 3:00 PM UTC (which is local time in
> > > Edinburgh), which would be 10:00 AM EST I believe.
> > 
> > Sure? On Saturday 26 Edinburgh time will still be BST (British Summer 
> > Time), which is UTC+1, not UTC. That's for DST (daylight saving time) 
> > which ends one day later, on Sunday 27.
> > 
> > So I guess you really meant:
> > 
> > Edinburgh (BST = UTC+1):   3:00 PM
> > Rome/Paris (CEST = UTC+2): 4:00 PM (me)
> > Chicago (CDT = UTC-5):     9:00 AM (Ryan timezone, correct?)
> > 
> > Am I correct?
> 
> You are. I was under the assumption that Chicago was in the same time
> zone as US East Coast, which isn't the case (New York is UTC-5, and
> Chicago is UTC-6).

Well currently Chicago time is at UTC-5 (since daylight saving time is
in effect thus CDT - Central Daylight Savings Time). Come November 3 this
will change to being UTC-6 (CST - Central Standard Time).

This is a confusing time of year that is for sure with all the time
changes.

> > I'll be available between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM CEST (Italy/France), 
> > meaning 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST (Edinburgh).
> > 
> > Under the above assumptions, that means I'll have a 1 hour time window 

> > since the starting time, and leave you at 4:00 PM Edinburgh Time (5:00 

> > PM Italian time).
> 
> Still good for me, hoping 9:00 AM is not too early for those people in
> the US.

That will be fine for me. I'm usually up around 7am or 8am anyways.

> Best regards,
> 
> Thomas
> -- 
> Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
> Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
> http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Thomas De Schampheleire]

Hi Thomas,

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
<thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote:
[..]
>
> Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the meeting,
> to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
> interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
> interested in participating remotely?
>

If I have some time, I will certainly join the Hangout, but I cannot
make any promises about if and when this happens.
How does this work, are hangouts 'open' all the time? Is there an
invite needed? Where will you post the reference?

Thanks,
Thomas

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Dear Thomas De Schampheleire,

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:38:28 +0200, Thomas De Schampheleire wrote:

> > Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the meeting,
> > to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
> > interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
> > interested in participating remotely?
> 
> If I have some time, I will certainly join the Hangout, but I cannot
> make any promises about if and when this happens.
> How does this work, are hangouts 'open' all the time? Is there an
> invite needed? Where will you post the reference?

So far, I've only done "private" hangouts by inviting a bunch of
people. Maybe there is something to make "public" hangouts, but I've
never tried. So what I believe we're going to do is that the people who
want to join the hangout should say so on IRC, and I'll invite them. I
will just name their Google account e-mail to do so.

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Ryan Barnett]

Thomas P,

Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote on 10/25/2013 
02:18:47 AM:

> Dear Thomas De Schampheleire,
> 
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:38:28 +0200, Thomas De Schampheleire wrote:
> 
> > > Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the 
meeting,
> > > to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
> > > interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
> > > interested in participating remotely?
> > 
> > If I have some time, I will certainly join the Hangout, but I cannot
> > make any promises about if and when this happens.
> > How does this work, are hangouts 'open' all the time? Is there an
> > invite needed? Where will you post the reference?
> 
> So far, I've only done "private" hangouts by inviting a bunch of
> people. Maybe there is something to make "public" hangouts, but I've
> never tried. So what I believe we're going to do is that the people who
> want to join the hangout should say so on IRC, and I'll invite them. I
> will just name their Google account e-mail to do so.
 
So have we decided upon an exact time? Also I haven't seen any google 
hangout invite requests yet. I'm going to assume that we are going to do 
it during Luca's availablity window. This means that it will take place 
around.

3:00 PM to 5:00 PM CEST
2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST
8:00 AM to 10:00 AM CDT

Well if anything, I'll be ready earlier rather than later.

Thanks,
-Ryan

[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Jesse Cobra]

I will try and attend in the morning (Boston EST)

I'll send a Google invite when I get a chance....
On Oct 25, 2013 6:08 PM, "Ryan Barnett" <rjbarnet@rockwellcollins.com>
wrote:

> Thomas P,
>
> Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote on 10/25/2013
> 02:18:47 AM:
>
> > Dear Thomas De Schampheleire,
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:38:28 +0200, Thomas De Schampheleire wrote:
> >
> > > > Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the
> meeting,
> > > > to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
> > > > interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
> > > > interested in participating remotely?
> > >
> > > If I have some time, I will certainly join the Hangout, but I cannot
> > > make any promises about if and when this happens.
> > > How does this work, are hangouts 'open' all the time? Is there an
> > > invite needed? Where will you post the reference?
> >
> > So far, I've only done "private" hangouts by inviting a bunch of
> > people. Maybe there is something to make "public" hangouts, but I've
> > never tried. So what I believe we're going to do is that the people who
> > want to join the hangout should say so on IRC, and I'll invite them. I
> > will just name their Google account e-mail to do so.
>
> So have we decided upon an exact time? Also I haven't seen any google
> hangout invite requests yet. I'm going to assume that we are going to do
> it during Luca's availablity window. This means that it will take place
> around.
>
> 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM CEST
> 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST
> 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM CDT
>
> Well if anything, I'll be ready earlier rather than later.
>
> Thanks,
> -Ryan
>
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[Buildroot] Buildroot Developpers' Day 2013

[Luca Ceresoli]

Hi Ryan, All,

Ryan Barnett wrote:
> Thomas P,
>
> Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote on 10/25/2013
> 02:18:47 AM:
>
>> Dear Thomas De Schampheleire,
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:38:28 +0200, Thomas De Schampheleire wrote:
>>
>>>> Also, do we want to start a Google Hangout session during the
> meeting,
>>>> to allow people to follow the discussions remotely? Is there any
>>>> interest in doing that, from the perspective of people that would be
>>>> interested in participating remotely?
>>> If I have some time, I will certainly join the Hangout, but I cannot
>>> make any promises about if and when this happens.
>>> How does this work, are hangouts 'open' all the time? Is there an
>>> invite needed? Where will you post the reference?
>> So far, I've only done "private" hangouts by inviting a bunch of
>> people. Maybe there is something to make "public" hangouts, but I've
>> never tried. So what I believe we're going to do is that the people who
>> want to join the hangout should say so on IRC, and I'll invite them. I
>> will just name their Google account e-mail to do so.
>   
> So have we decided upon an exact time? Also I haven't seen any google
> hangout invite requests yet. I'm going to assume that we are going to do
> it during Luca's availablity window. This means that it will take place
> around.

The idea is that the session will start as soon as there is people.

>
> 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM CEST
> 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM BST
> 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM CDT

I may be there a bit later, but more or less it is correct.

-- 
Luca