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From: Arnout Vandecappelle <arnout@mind.be>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [RFC 3/6] system: add mdev-only /dev management (without devtmpfs)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 00:23:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F748D0.1060905@mind.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F6CFFE.3000407@lucaceresoli.net>

On 14-09-15 15:47, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> Dear Thomas,
> 
> Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
>> Dear Luca Ceresoli,
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:29:36 +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
[snip]
>>> This would slightly change the current behaviour for all cases, and
>>> start S01logging after mdev, not before. I tested it quickly and it
>>> looks like it works. Can you think of any problem with moving S10mdev
>>> to S00mdev?
>>
>> In principle, it seems better to me if the devices are all set up
>> before starting anything else, so if it works, I'm all for S00mdev. The
>> only question is whether mdev logs things to syslog, and if so what
>> happens to those messages that are emitted before syslog is started.
> 
> At a quick code inspection it looks like mdev does not use syslog.
> I'll do some testing.

 mdev doesn't but any script it calls might.

 Also, if a crash happens during mdev coldplugging, it's an advantage if the
kernel messages can be captured by syslog.

 So I'd prefer to keep syslog before mdev.

 FYI: systemd starts journald and udev in parallel (at least as far as I can
make out from the service files).

 Regards,
 Arnout

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-14 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-08 21:28 [Buildroot] [RFC 0/6] mdev-only /dev management (without devtmpfs) Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-08 21:28 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 1/6] Move mounting /sys from fstab to inittab Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09  9:12   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-08 21:28 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 2/6] system: clarify /dev management using devtmpfs + {mdev, eudev} Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09  9:40   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-09 10:53     ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09 10:54       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-08 21:28 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 3/6] system: add mdev-only /dev management (without devtmpfs) Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09  9:21   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-09 12:29     ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09 12:32       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-09 13:54       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-14 13:47         ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-14 22:23           ` Arnout Vandecappelle [this message]
2015-09-15 22:35             ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-14 20:53         ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-14 21:34           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-14 21:38             ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-15  7:30               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-15  8:09                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-15  9:41                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-15 12:01                     ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-15 12:27                       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-15 12:32                         ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-18 16:37                           ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-15 13:03                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-15 13:14                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-15 22:34                       ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-10-01  9:36                       ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-10-01 10:03                         ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-15 22:31                   ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-16  7:32                     ` Peter Korsgaard
2015-09-18 15:47                       ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09  9:34   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-09 11:23     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-09 11:29   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-09 20:33     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-14 16:07       ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-14 16:05     ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-14 19:34       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-14 20:19         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-15 22:07           ` Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-08 21:28 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 4/6] system: strip the initial /dev for mdev-only /dev management Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-08 21:28 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 5/6] docs/manual: document "Dynamic using mdev only" " Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09 10:39   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-08 21:28 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 6/6] **** DO NOT COMMIT THIS **** ugly stuff to test mdev-only " Luca Ceresoli
2015-09-09  9:26 ` [Buildroot] [RFC 0/6] mdev-only /dev management (without devtmpfs) Arnout Vandecappelle
2015-09-09 11:30   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2015-09-14 21:03 ` Peter Korsgaard

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