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From: Alex Elder <elder@inktank.com>
To: Yehuda Sadeh <yehuda@inktank.com>
Cc: Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com>,
	Gregory Farnum <greg@inktank.com>,
	"ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org" <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: rbd volume upgrades
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:52:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <509D5EE8.3040608@inktank.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC-hyiFz2eb1CyJTKAv2YLWmPouABo77tM7ZbitFEKofsA+wsw@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/09/2012 01:44 PM, Yehuda Sadeh wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com> wrote:
>> On 11/09/2012 11:08 AM, Yehuda Sadeh wrote:
. . .
>>>>
>>>> You need to export and then import the volume as format 2. Format 2 uses
>>>> different names for objects, so providing an 'upgrade' path would still
>>>> require copying all the data around.
>>>>
>>> Couldn't we just set a flag in the header specifying the object naming
>>> version, which would then only require updating the header?
>>>
>>> Yehuda
>>
>>
>> The header was separated from the id object to allow renames to work
>> while the image was in use or with cloning. The whole header format
>> changed and moved to a different object as a result. It would be
>> messy to implement this kind of upgrade, and doesn't provide much
>> benefit when there's an easy way to convert already. If someone really
>> wanted it, it could be implemented, but otherwise I don't think it's
>> worth adding. It would have to be added to the upcoming kernel
>> layering support too.
>>
> 
> The assumption is that when you upgrade you don't go back, so the fact
> that the header was separated from the id object doesn't change much.
> An upgrade process would be the same as creating a new v2 image,
> having object names (prefix?) that set as the original object names,
> and with a version field that specifies that these are a v1 names.
> 
> The problem that I see with converting v1 to v2 through copy is that
> (besides the cumbersome and potentially very long process) we will end
> up turning sparse data objects into fully written data objects, which
> will affect the data consumption.

I do think this lightning-fast, no-data-loss upgrade is a feature,
and I don't think it would be hard at all to implement.

					-Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-09 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 19:01 rbd volume upgrades Gregory Farnum
2012-11-09 19:04 ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 19:06   ` Gregory Farnum
2012-11-09 19:08   ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 19:27     ` Alex Elder
2012-11-09 19:30     ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 19:44       ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 19:52         ` Alex Elder [this message]
2012-11-09 20:03         ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 20:09           ` Alex Elder
2012-11-09 20:26             ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 20:30               ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 20:31                 ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 20:34                   ` Josh Durgin

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