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From: Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com>
To: Alex Elder <elder@inktank.com>
Cc: Yehuda Sadeh <yehuda@inktank.com>,
	Gregory Farnum <greg@inktank.com>,
	"ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org" <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: rbd volume upgrades
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:26:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <509D66EC.5070808@inktank.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <509D62EB.1080508@inktank.com>

On 11/09/2012 12:09 PM, Alex Elder wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 02:03 PM, Josh Durgin wrote:
>> On 11/09/2012 11:44 AM, Yehuda Sadeh wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 11/09/2012 11:08 AM, Yehuda Sadeh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/09/2012 11:01 AM, Gregory Farnum wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was asked today if there's a way to upgrade RBD volumes from v1 to
>>>>>>> v2. I didn't think so, but wanted
>>>>>>> 1) to make sure I'm right,
>>>>>>> 2) to ask how hard it would be,
>>>>>>> 3) to ask if we haven't done it because it didn't occur to us or
>>>>>>> because it's too hard.
>>>>>>> -Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was addressed in the original discussions about format 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to export and then import the volume as format 2. Format 2
>>>>>> uses
>>>>>> different names for objects, so providing an 'upgrade' path would
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> require copying all the data around.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Couldn't we just set a flag in the header specifying the object naming
>>>>> version, which would then only require updating the header?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yehuda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The header was separated from the id object to allow renames to work
>>>> while the image was in use or with cloning. The whole header format
>>>> changed and moved to a different object as a result. It would be
>>>> messy to implement this kind of upgrade, and doesn't provide much
>>>> benefit when there's an easy way to convert already. If someone really
>>>> wanted it, it could be implemented, but otherwise I don't think it's
>>>> worth adding. It would have to be added to the upcoming kernel
>>>> layering support too.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The assumption is that when you upgrade you don't go back, so the fact
>>> that the header was separated from the id object doesn't change much.
>>> An upgrade process would be the same as creating a new v2 image,
>>> having object names (prefix?) that set as the original object names,
>>> and with a version field that specifies that these are a v1 names.
>>>
>>> The problem that I see with converting v1 to v2 through copy is that
>>> (besides the cumbersome and potentially very long process) we will end
>>> up turning sparse data objects into fully written data objects, which
>>> will affect the data consumption.
>>
>> That's a good point about export. It would be good to make export create
>> sparse files as well, but since it doesn't yet, the in-place upgrade
>> would be better for space usage.
>
> Plus!  It looks like you don't even need a flag.
>
> I think if you simply recorded the old-format object prefix in the
> new format header, all would be fine.  The format of the object
> id has not changed between v1 and v2, just the object prefix.

You still need a flag to tell whether there should be an 'rbd_data.' 
prefix (format 2) or an 'rb.' prefix (format 1) before the object_prefix
stored in the header.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-09 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 19:01 rbd volume upgrades Gregory Farnum
2012-11-09 19:04 ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 19:06   ` Gregory Farnum
2012-11-09 19:08   ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 19:27     ` Alex Elder
2012-11-09 19:30     ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 19:44       ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 19:52         ` Alex Elder
2012-11-09 20:03         ` Josh Durgin
2012-11-09 20:09           ` Alex Elder
2012-11-09 20:26             ` Josh Durgin [this message]
2012-11-09 20:30               ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 20:31                 ` Yehuda Sadeh
2012-11-09 20:34                   ` Josh Durgin

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