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From: Maged Mokhtar <mmokhtar-6jkX1og9WkpAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alfredo Deza <adeza-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org,
	ceph-devel <ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ceph-disk is now deprecated
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:20:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58d2cc9068a226ef269faac3597a19d3@petasan.org> (raw)
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I tend to agree with Wido. May of us still reply on ceph-disk and hope
to see it live a little longer. 

Maged 

On 2017-11-28 13:54, Alfredo Deza wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido-fspyXLx8qC4@public.gmane.org> wrote: 
> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza <adeza-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>:
> 
> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be
> officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with
> deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise
> awareness.
> 
> As much as I like ceph-volume and the work being done, is it really a good idea to use a minor release to deprecate a tool?
> 
> Can't we just introduce ceph-volume and deprecate ceph-disk at the release of M? Because when you upgrade to 12.2.2 suddenly existing integrations will have deprecation warnings being thrown at them while they haven't upgraded to a new major version.

ceph-volume has been present since the very first release of Luminous,
the deprecation warning in ceph-disk is the only "new" thing
introduced for 12.2.2.

> As ceph-deploy doesn't support ceph-disk either I don't think it's a good idea to deprecate it right now.

ceph-deploy work is being done to support ceph-volume exclusively
(ceph-disk support is dropped fully), which will mean a change in its
API in a non-backwards compatible
way. A major version change in ceph-deploy, documentation, and a bunch
of documentation is being worked on to allow users to transition to
it.

> How do others feel about this?
> 
> Wido
> 
>> We are strongly suggesting using ceph-volume for new (and old) OSD
>> deployments. The only current exceptions to this are encrypted OSDs
>> and FreeBSD systems
>> 
>> Encryption support is planned and will be coming soon to ceph-volume.
>> 
>> A few items to consider:
>> 
>> * ceph-disk is expected to be fully removed by the Mimic release
>> * Existing OSDs are supported by ceph-volume. They can be "taken over" [0 [1]]
>> * ceph-ansible already fully supports ceph-volume and will soon default to it
>> * ceph-deploy support is planned and should be fully implemented soon
>> 
>> [0] http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/ceph-volume/simple/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-28 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-27 13:36 ceph-disk is now deprecated Alfredo Deza
2017-11-27 20:07 ` Nathan Cutler
2017-11-28  8:24   ` Fabian Grünbichler
     [not found]     ` <CALWuvY9mX0Pdr4aMwPi=Dqw0qng959Z5bg5hs5dOxTfSZ+QH4Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-28 12:00       ` Alfredo Deza
2017-11-28  6:56 ` Andreas Calminder
2017-11-28 11:47   ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]     ` <CAC-Np1wp1M=qapRO0sCr1HMLpZ2zgLoh-GVv3p01k2DqjxqaOw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:22       ` Andreas Calminder
2017-11-28 12:37         ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]           ` <CAC-Np1xqg2-wAguu8AO6LSbj41uOGSBZTgdgL45OAi5M080grw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 13:14             ` Andreas Calminder
     [not found] ` <CAC-Np1z7OJNxUeso+FEB8g+7RUABkvKF58_mmXDHt4SeOTHSDw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28  8:12   ` Wido den Hollander
2017-11-28  8:39     ` [ceph-users] " Piotr Dałek
     [not found]       ` <4c4b5589-b1ae-3f8b-e900-af0f2895fbc9-Rm6v+N6rxxBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:32         ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]           ` <CAC-Np1zsf+uqFi+ZdR7K3=re5ODpJvWFrTX-JU_8DkkyVGOz7A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 14:26             ` Willem Jan Withagen
     [not found]               ` <d548c5a8-c0dc-0737-66f4-e3fc04f900d7-dOtk1Lsa4IaEVqv0pETR8A@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 17:22                 ` David Turner
     [not found]                   ` <CAN-Gep+RmSB6gW5GRVsT8T7j60EAzGnfbgeqDjwCNDWocpgp3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 18:39                     ` Vasu Kulkarni
2017-11-30 11:31                       ` [ceph-users] " Fabian Grünbichler
2017-11-30 12:04                         ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]                           ` <CAC-Np1wo_j5MBXTzm5kp-MjWiV=vkL+5Xt88SS617MJ4qmh5UQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-30 13:04                             ` Fabian Grünbichler
     [not found]     ` <1821337488.5487.1511856776936-4q+tAGQs9zLCXE5Mi8V/gA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 11:54       ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]         ` <CAC-Np1zfMoqtW2M75ZAys1_NTEkns6MJ6HimuRR3nFhbMVzjPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:20           ` Maged Mokhtar [this message]
2017-11-28 12:27           ` Wido den Hollander
2017-11-28 12:38           ` Joao Eduardo Luis
     [not found]             ` <1db3fa50-d022-bf37-eb4b-098882ea0984-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:52               ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]                 ` <CAC-Np1ynRyeOChGK2k_oBAx0A7XcAFkMDMrxVHZhN-pjGXfAJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 14:17                   ` Joao Eduardo Luis
2017-11-29 12:51   ` Yoann Moulin

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