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From: Joao Eduardo Luis <joao-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Alfredo Deza <adeza-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org"
	<ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org>,
	ceph-devel <ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ceph-disk is now deprecated
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:17:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a21d992-e360-66ce-5b72-743a05b59a1a@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC-Np1ynRyeOChGK2k_oBAx0A7XcAFkMDMrxVHZhN-pjGXfAJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 11/28/2017 12:52 PM, Alfredo Deza wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Joao Eduardo Luis <joao-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On 11/28/2017 11:54 AM, Alfredo Deza wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido-fspyXLx8qC4@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza <adeza-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be
>>>>> officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with
>>>>> deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise
>>>>> awareness.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As much as I like ceph-volume and the work being done, is it really a
>>>> good idea to use a minor release to deprecate a tool?
>>>>
>>>> Can't we just introduce ceph-volume and deprecate ceph-disk at the
>>>> release of M? Because when you upgrade to 12.2.2 suddenly existing
>>>> integrations will have deprecation warnings being thrown at them while they
>>>> haven't upgraded to a new major version.
>>>
>>>
>>> ceph-volume has been present since the very first release of Luminous,
>>> the deprecation warning in ceph-disk is the only "new" thing
>>> introduced for 12.2.2.
>>
>>
>> I think Wido's question still stands: why can't ceph-disk be deprecated
>> solely in M, and removed by N?
> 
> Like I mentioned, I don't think this is set in stone (yet), but it was
> the idea from the beginning (See Oct 9th thread "killing ceph-disk"),
> and I don't think it would
> be terribly bad to keep ceph-disk in Mimic, but fully frozen, with no
> updates or bug fixes. And full removal in N
> 
> The deprecation warnings need to stay for Luminous though.

I can live with this, granted Luminous still sees bug fixes despite the 
deprecation warning - but I'm guessing that's what you meant by only 
fully freezing in Mimic :).

Thanks.

   -Joao

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-28 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-27 13:36 ceph-disk is now deprecated Alfredo Deza
2017-11-27 20:07 ` Nathan Cutler
2017-11-28  8:24   ` Fabian Grünbichler
     [not found]     ` <CALWuvY9mX0Pdr4aMwPi=Dqw0qng959Z5bg5hs5dOxTfSZ+QH4Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-28 12:00       ` Alfredo Deza
2017-11-28  6:56 ` Andreas Calminder
2017-11-28 11:47   ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]     ` <CAC-Np1wp1M=qapRO0sCr1HMLpZ2zgLoh-GVv3p01k2DqjxqaOw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:22       ` Andreas Calminder
2017-11-28 12:37         ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]           ` <CAC-Np1xqg2-wAguu8AO6LSbj41uOGSBZTgdgL45OAi5M080grw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 13:14             ` Andreas Calminder
     [not found] ` <CAC-Np1z7OJNxUeso+FEB8g+7RUABkvKF58_mmXDHt4SeOTHSDw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28  8:12   ` Wido den Hollander
2017-11-28  8:39     ` [ceph-users] " Piotr Dałek
     [not found]       ` <4c4b5589-b1ae-3f8b-e900-af0f2895fbc9-Rm6v+N6rxxBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:32         ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]           ` <CAC-Np1zsf+uqFi+ZdR7K3=re5ODpJvWFrTX-JU_8DkkyVGOz7A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 14:26             ` Willem Jan Withagen
     [not found]               ` <d548c5a8-c0dc-0737-66f4-e3fc04f900d7-dOtk1Lsa4IaEVqv0pETR8A@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 17:22                 ` David Turner
     [not found]                   ` <CAN-Gep+RmSB6gW5GRVsT8T7j60EAzGnfbgeqDjwCNDWocpgp3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 18:39                     ` Vasu Kulkarni
2017-11-30 11:31                       ` [ceph-users] " Fabian Grünbichler
2017-11-30 12:04                         ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]                           ` <CAC-Np1wo_j5MBXTzm5kp-MjWiV=vkL+5Xt88SS617MJ4qmh5UQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-30 13:04                             ` Fabian Grünbichler
     [not found]     ` <1821337488.5487.1511856776936-4q+tAGQs9zLCXE5Mi8V/gA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 11:54       ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]         ` <CAC-Np1zfMoqtW2M75ZAys1_NTEkns6MJ6HimuRR3nFhbMVzjPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:20           ` Maged Mokhtar
2017-11-28 12:27           ` Wido den Hollander
2017-11-28 12:38           ` Joao Eduardo Luis
     [not found]             ` <1db3fa50-d022-bf37-eb4b-098882ea0984-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 12:52               ` Alfredo Deza
     [not found]                 ` <CAC-Np1ynRyeOChGK2k_oBAx0A7XcAFkMDMrxVHZhN-pjGXfAJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-28 14:17                   ` Joao Eduardo Luis [this message]
2017-11-29 12:51   ` Yoann Moulin

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