From: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
Vladimir Davydov
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 13:00:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5db8aef5-2d5e-1e3b-d121-778fc4bd6875@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod7ED3qaqekGTd-2PHmbTjY+D_NcFP1bE5_AgP8OF=jXJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On 12/20/2017 09:15 PM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Wed 20-12-17 14:32:19, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2017 01:33 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>> On Wed 20-12-17 13:24:28, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
>>>>> mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() tries to free only 32 (SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
>>>>> pages on each iteration. This makes practically impossible to decrease
>>>>> limit of memory cgroup. Tasks could easily allocate back 32 pages,
>>>>> so we can't reduce memory usage, and once retry_count reaches zero we return
>>>>> -EBUSY.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's easy to reproduce the problem by running the following commands:
>>>>>
>>>>> mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test
>>>>> echo $$ >> /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/tasks
>>>>> cat big_file > /dev/null &
>>>>> sleep 1 && echo $((100*1024*1024)) > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
>>>>> -bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of trying to free small amount of pages, it's much more
>>>>> reasonable to free 'usage - limit' pages.
>>>>
>>>> But that only makes the issue less probable. It doesn't fix it because
>>>> if (curusage >= oldusage)
>>>> retry_count--;
>>>> can still be true because allocator might be faster than the reclaimer.
>>>> Wouldn't it be more reasonable to simply remove the retry count and keep
>>>> trying until interrupted or we manage to update the limit.
>>>
>>> But does it makes sense to continue reclaiming even if reclaimer can't
>>> make any progress? I'd say no. "Allocator is faster than reclaimer"
>>> may be not the only reason for failed reclaim. E.g. we could try to
>>> set limit lower than amount of mlock()ed memory in cgroup, retrying
>>> reclaim would be just a waste of machine's resources. Or we simply
>>> don't have any swap, and anon > new_limit. Should be burn the cpu in
>>> that case?
>>
>> We can check the number of reclaimed pages and go EBUSY if it is 0.
>>
>>>> Another option would be to commit the new limit and allow temporal overcommit
>>>> of the hard limit. New allocations and the limit update paths would
>>>> reclaim to the hard limit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It sounds a bit fragile and tricky to me. I wouldn't go that way
>>> without unless we have a very good reason for this.
>>
>> I haven't explored this, to be honest, so there may be dragons that way.
>> I've just mentioned that option for completness.
>>
>
> We already do this for cgroup-v2's memory.max. So, I don't think it is
> fragile or tricky.
>
It has a potential to break userspace expectation. Userspace might expect that lowering
limit_in_bytes too much fails with EBUSY and doesn't trigger OOM killer.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-21 10:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-20 10:24 [PATCH 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 10:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/memcg: Consolidate mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() functions Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 10:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 11:32 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 11:34 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 18:15 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod7ED3qaqekGTd-2PHmbTjY+D_NcFP1bE5_AgP8OF=jXJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-21 10:00 ` Andrey Ryabinin [this message]
2017-12-20 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 " Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/memcg: Consolidate mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() functions Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2018-01-09 16:58 ` [PATCH v3 " Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 16:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm/memcg: Consolidate mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() functions Andrey Ryabinin
[not found] ` <20180109165815.8329-2-aryabinin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-09 17:10 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-09 17:26 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20180109152622.31ca558acb0cc25a1b14f38c-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-10 12:43 ` [PATCH v4] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-10 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-11 11:59 ` Andrey Ryabinin
[not found] ` <47856d2b-1534-6198-c2e2-6d2356973bef-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-12 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-12 9:08 ` Andrey Ryabinin
[not found] ` <20180110124317.28887-1-aryabinin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-11 10:42 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180111104239.GZ1732-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-11 12:21 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180111124629.GA1732-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-11 15:23 ` Andrey Ryabinin
[not found] ` <ce885a69-67af-5f4c-1116-9f6803fb45ee-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-11 16:29 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180111162947.GG1732-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-11 21:59 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-12 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180112122405.GK1732-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-12 22:57 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-15 12:29 ` Andrey Ryabinin
[not found] ` <e5e92227-0931-dfc1-841e-c036131e66a8-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-15 17:04 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-15 12:30 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-15 12:53 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:58 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180109165815.8329-1-aryabinin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-09 17:08 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 17:22 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <20171220102429.31601-1-aryabinin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-19 13:25 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/memcontrol.c: " Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:25 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] mm/memcontrol.c: Reduce reclaim retries in mem_cgroup_resize_limit() Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:35 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180119133510.GD6584-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-19 14:49 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod7HS6P0OU6Rps8JeMJycaPd4dF5NjxV8k1y2-yosF2bdA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-19 15:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 15:24 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod6q8ExRW-EkG_eMyJeGhhMcbSQZMQEqmHEHj7PhRYwJ1w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-19 15:31 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20180119132544.19569-1-aryabinin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-19 13:32 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/memcontrol.c: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2018-01-25 19:44 ` Andrey Ryabinin
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