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From: YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, chrisl@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, yosry@kernel.org, david@kernel.org,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com,
	baoquan.he@linux.dev, baohua@kernel.org,
	chengming.zhou@linux.dev, ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
	vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	qi.zheng@linux.dev, axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com,
	weixugc@google.com, riel@surriel.com, gourry@gourry.net,
	haowenchao22@gmail.com, kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] mm, swap: Virtual Swap Space (Swap Table Edition)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:20:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ai5kOOmR1LPTWs1J@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612193738.2183968-1-nphamcs@gmail.com>

...
> * Integration with swap.tier by Youngjun (see [12]). For now, I'm
>   leaning towards opting out the vswap device from swap.tier entirely, and
>   treat it as a special device. Integrating it with swap.tiers will
>   benefit the cases where you want some cgroups to skip vswap for fast
>   swap devices (pmem), whereas other should go through zswap first. But
>   most other use cases, either the overhead of vswap will be acceptable
>   (or not the bottleneck), or we can just disable CONFIG_VSWAP entirely :)
> 
>   Youngjun, may I ask for your thoughts on this?

Hi Nhat,

Tier 1: VSWAP, Tier 2: ZSWAP ...

I don't see any problem applying the desired functionality with the
currently proposed mechanism and interface. With this, a user would be
assigned the default Virtual -> RAM swap tier, and the overall picture
becomes one where swap tiers are composed according to the priority
setting.

A few more thoughts came to mind.

Shakeel also proposed a per-tier max for the swap tier interface.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/aiw2p5ANjsQUCIHA@linux.dev/

However, for vswap, rather than treating it as a case for limiting the
amount via such a per-tier max, I think the current interface is the
better fit. (But, as Shakeel mentioned, if we only allow the limit
to be set to 0 or max, the usage could end up being the same. I'm still
thinking this part through.)

I have a few other thoughts as well, but I plan to raise those points in
the swap tier discussion thread instead. Please take a look at the
related thread, and let me know if you have any opinions. :)

And I'll share more if other thoughts come to mind

Thanks,
Youngjun Park

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-14  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-12 19:37 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] mm, swap: Virtual Swap Space (Swap Table Edition) Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] mm, swap: add virtual swap device infrastructure Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] mm, swap: support zswap and zeroswap as vswap backends Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] mm, swap: support physical swap as a vswap backend Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] mm, swap: only charge physical swap entries Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] mm, swap: add debugfs counters for vswap Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] mm, swap: defer memcg_table allocation on physical clusters Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] mm, swap: widen swap_info_struct max/pages to unsigned long Nhat Pham
2026-06-14  8:20 ` YoungJun Park [this message]
2026-06-15  2:38   ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] mm, swap: Virtual Swap Space (Swap Table Edition) Nhat Pham
2026-06-15 19:56     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-16  1:29       ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-16 12:15         ` Nhat Pham

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