From: YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, chrisl@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] mm, swap: Virtual Swap Space (Swap Table Edition)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:20:08 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ai5kOOmR1LPTWs1J@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612193738.2183968-1-nphamcs@gmail.com>
...
> * Integration with swap.tier by Youngjun (see [12]). For now, I'm
> leaning towards opting out the vswap device from swap.tier entirely, and
> treat it as a special device. Integrating it with swap.tiers will
> benefit the cases where you want some cgroups to skip vswap for fast
> swap devices (pmem), whereas other should go through zswap first. But
> most other use cases, either the overhead of vswap will be acceptable
> (or not the bottleneck), or we can just disable CONFIG_VSWAP entirely :)
>
> Youngjun, may I ask for your thoughts on this?
Hi Nhat,
Tier 1: VSWAP, Tier 2: ZSWAP ...
I don't see any problem applying the desired functionality with the
currently proposed mechanism and interface. With this, a user would be
assigned the default Virtual -> RAM swap tier, and the overall picture
becomes one where swap tiers are composed according to the priority
setting.
A few more thoughts came to mind.
Shakeel also proposed a per-tier max for the swap tier interface.
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/aiw2p5ANjsQUCIHA@linux.dev/
However, for vswap, rather than treating it as a case for limiting the
amount via such a per-tier max, I think the current interface is the
better fit. (But, as Shakeel mentioned, if we only allow the limit
to be set to 0 or max, the usage could end up being the same. I'm still
thinking this part through.)
I have a few other thoughts as well, but I plan to raise those points in
the swap tier discussion thread instead. Please take a look at the
related thread, and let me know if you have any opinions. :)
And I'll share more if other thoughts come to mind
Thanks,
Youngjun Park
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-14 8:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-12 19:37 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] mm, swap: Virtual Swap Space (Swap Table Edition) Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] mm, swap: add virtual swap device infrastructure Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] mm, swap: support zswap and zeroswap as vswap backends Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] mm, swap: support physical swap as a vswap backend Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] mm, swap: only charge physical swap entries Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] mm, swap: add debugfs counters for vswap Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] mm, swap: defer memcg_table allocation on physical clusters Nhat Pham
2026-06-12 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] mm, swap: widen swap_info_struct max/pages to unsigned long Nhat Pham
2026-06-14 8:20 ` YoungJun Park [this message]
2026-06-15 2:38 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] mm, swap: Virtual Swap Space (Swap Table Edition) Nhat Pham
2026-06-15 19:56 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-16 1:29 ` YoungJun Park
2026-06-16 12:15 ` Nhat Pham
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