From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/16] mm/slab: do not init any kfence objects on allocation
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:19:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6530e92-d648-4028-9e77-0df8c3ab166d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260610-slab_alloc_flags-v2-2-7190909db118@kernel.org>
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On 6/11/26 12:40 AM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> When init (zeroing) on allocation is requested, for kmalloc() we
> generally have to zero the full object size even if a smaller size is
> requested, in order to provide krealloc()'s __GFP_ZERO guarantees.
Oh, today I learned...
> When we end up allocating a kfence object, kfence perfoms the zeroing on
> its own because has its own redzone beyond the requested size. Thus
> slab_post_alloc_hook() has an 'init' parameter which has to be evaluated
> in all callers (via slab_want_init_on_alloc()) and should be false for
> kfence allocations.
TIL again :D
> For kfence allocations in slab_alloc_node() this is achieved by subtly
> skipping over the slab_want_init_on_alloc() call.
Indeed subtle and I didn't realize this.
> Other callers (i.e.
> kmem_cache_alloc_bulk_noprof()) however evaluate it unconditionally even
> if they do end up with a kfence allocation. This is only subtly not a
> problem, as those are not kmalloc allocations and thus the "requested
> size" equals s->object_size and thus it cannot interfere with kfence's
> redzone.
Right.
> There's just a unnecessary double zeroing (in both kfence and
> slab_post_alloc_hook()), but it's all very fragile and contradicts the
> comment in kfence_guarded_alloc().
Right.
> Remove this subtlety and simplify the code by eliminating the init
> parameter from slab_post_alloc_hook() and make it call
> slab_want_init_on_alloc() itself. Instead add a is_kfence_address()
> check before performing the memset, which will start doing the right
> thing for all callers of slab_post_alloc_hook().
Great, more straightforward!
> This potentially adds overhead of the is_kfence_address() check to
> allocation hotpath, but that one is designed to be as small as possible,
> and it's only evaluated if zeroing is about to happen. This means (aside
> from init_on_alloc hardening) only for __GFP_ZERO allocations, and the
> zeroing itself comes with an overhead likely larger than the added
> check.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
> ---
> mm/kfence/core.c | 2 +-
> mm/slub.c | 23 ++++++++---------------
> 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
> index e2ee8f1aaccf..8e5264d3ddbf 100644
> --- a/mm/slub.c
> +++ b/mm/slub.c
> @@ -4565,9 +4565,10 @@ struct kmem_cache *slab_pre_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags)
>
> static __fastpath_inline
> bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s, struct list_lru *lru,
> - gfp_t flags, size_t size, void **p, bool init,
> + gfp_t flags, size_t size, void **p,
> unsigned int orig_size)
> {
> + bool init = slab_want_init_on_alloc(flags, s);
> unsigned int zero_size = s->object_size;
> bool kasan_init = init;
> size_t i;
> @@ -4608,7 +4609,8 @@ bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s, struct list_lru *lru,
> for (i = 0; i < size; i++) {
> p[i] = kasan_slab_alloc(s, p[i], init_flags, kasan_init);
> if (p[i] && init && (!kasan_init ||
> - !kasan_has_integrated_init()))
> + !kasan_has_integrated_init())
> + && !is_kfence_address(p[i]))
I hope we could make it bit more verbose and straightforward,
something like:
diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
index 5d7ea72ebebd..29cf4590f9d9 100644
--- a/mm/slub.c
+++ b/mm/slub.c
@@ -4573,7 +4573,6 @@ bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s,
gfp_t flags, size_t size,
{
bool init = slab_want_init_on_alloc(flags, s);
unsigned int zero_size = s->object_size;
- bool kasan_init = init;
size_t i;
gfp_t init_flags = flags & gfp_allowed_mask;
@@ -4591,29 +4590,37 @@ bool slab_post_alloc_hook(struct kmem_cache *s,
gfp_t flags, size_t size,
if (slub_debug_orig_size(s))
zero_size = ac->orig_size;
- /*
- * When slab_debug is enabled, avoid memory initialization integrated
- * into KASAN and instead zero out the memory via the memset below with
- * the proper size. Otherwise, KASAN might overwrite SLUB redzones and
- * cause false-positive reports. This does not lead to a performance
- * penalty on production builds, as slab_debug is not intended to be
- * enabled there.
- */
- if (__slub_debug_enabled())
- kasan_init = false;
-
- /*
- * As memory initialization might be integrated into KASAN,
- * kasan_slab_alloc and initialization memset must be
- * kept together to avoid discrepancies in behavior.
- *
- * As p[i] might get tagged, memset and kmemleak hook come after KASAN.
- */
for (i = 0; i < size; i++) {
- p[i] = kasan_slab_alloc(s, p[i], init_flags, kasan_init);
- if (p[i] && init && (!kasan_init ||
- !kasan_has_integrated_init())
- && !is_kfence_address(p[i]))
+ bool skip_init = false;
+
+ if (is_kfence_address(p[i])) {
+ /*
+ * kfence zeroes the object instead of SLUB to avoid
+ * overwriting its own redzone, and zeroing of
+ * s->object_size will corrupt it.
+ */
+ skip_init = true;
+ } else if (__slub_debug_enabled()) {
+ /*
+ * KASAN never zeroes memory when slab_debug is enabled
+ * to avoid overwriting SLUB redzones. This does not
+ * lead to a performance penalty on production builds,
+ * as slab_debug is not intended to be enabled there.
+ */
+ skip_init = false;
+ } else if (kasan_has_integrated_init()) {
+ /*
+ * ARM64 can set memory tags and zero the memory using
+ * a single instruction. Since HW_TAGS KASAN uses that
+ * while tagging the object, a separate zeroing is
+ * unnecessary unless slab_debug is enabled.
+ */
+ skip_init = true;
+ }
+
+ p[i] = kasan_slab_alloc(s, p[i], init_flags, init && skip_init);
+ /* memset and hooks come after KASAN as p[i] might get tagged */
+ if (p[i] && init && !skip_init)
memset(p[i], 0, zero_size);
if (alloc_flags_allow_spinning(ac->alloc_flags))
kmemleak_alloc_recursive(p[i], s->object_size, 1,
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-10 15:40 [PATCH v2 00/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] mm/slab: do not limit zeroing to orig_size when only red zoning is enabled Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 4:28 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] mm/slab: do not init any kfence objects on allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 3:19 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-06-11 8:34 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] mm/slab: stop inlining __slab_alloc_node() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] mm/slab: introduce slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 4:49 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 4:57 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11 6:40 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11 8:51 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] mm/slab: add alloc_flags to slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 5:06 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mm/slab: replace struct partial_context with slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 6:05 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] mm/slab: pass alloc_flags to new slab allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 7:52 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] mm/slab: pass alloc_flags through slab_post_alloc_hook() chain Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] mm/slab: replace slab_alloc_node() parameters with slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] mm/slab: allow kmem_cache_alloc_bulk() with any gfp flags Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] mm/slab: pass slab_alloc_context to __do_kmalloc_node() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] mm/slab: allow __GFP_NOMEMALLOC and __GFP_NOWARN for kmalloc_nolock() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] mm/slab: introduce kmalloc_flags() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] mm/slab: remove __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT usage from alloc_slab_obj_exts() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] mm/slab: replace __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT with SLAB_ALLOC_NO_RECURSE for sheaves Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
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