From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux.dev,
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com,
Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
Michael Peters <mpeters@redhat.com>,
Luke Hinds <lhinds@redhat.com>,
Lily Sturmann <lsturman@redhat.com>,
Patrick Uiterwijk <puiterwi@redhat.com>,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] ima: make the integrity inode cache per namespace
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:30:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1402f334-8072-48d1-b30b-2c2cdd4869dd@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a74b18c1aee2b14426cc12e2fd336716c447f070.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On 11/29/21 09:10, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 08:53 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> On 11/29/21 07:50, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2021-11-28 at 22:58 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 04:45:49PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
>>>>> Currently we get one entry in the IMA log per unique file
>>>>> event. So, if you have a measurement policy and it measures a
>>>>> particular binary it will not get measured again if it is
>>>>> subsequently executed. For Namespaced IMA, the correct
>>>>> behaviour
>>>>> seems to be to log once per inode per namespace (so every
>>>>> unique
>>>>> execution in a namespace gets a separate log entry). Since
>>>>> logging
>>>>> once per inode per namespace is
>>>> I suspect I'll need to do a more in depth reading of the existing
>>>> code, but I'll ask the lazy question anyway (since you say "the
>>>> correct behavior seems to be") - is it actually important that
>>>> files which were appraised under a parent namespace's policy
>>>> already
>>>> should be logged again?
>>> I think so. For a couple of reasons, assuming the namespace
>>> eventually
>>> gets its own log entries, which the next incremental patch proposed
>>> to
>>> do by virtualizing the securityfs entries. If you don't do this:
>> To avoid duplicate efforts, an implementation of a virtualized
>> securityfs is in this series here:
>>
>> https://github.com/stefanberger/linux-ima-namespaces/commits/v5.15%2Bimans.20211119.v3
>>
>> It starts with 'securityfs: Prefix global variables with secruityfs_'
> That's quite a big patch series. I already actually implemented this
> as part of the RFC for getting the per namespace measurement log. The
> attached is basically what I did.
I know it's big. I tried to avoid having to bind-mount the system-wide
single securityfs into the container and inherit all the other security
subsystems' files and directories (evm, TPM, safesetid, apparmor, tomoyo
[ https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/C/ident/securityfs_create_dir
]) and instead have a 'view' that is a bit more restricted to those
subsystems that are namespaced. The securityfs_ns I created can be
mounted into each user namespace individually and only shows what you're
supposed to see without other filesystem tricks to hide files or so. It
should be future-extensible for other subsystem to register themselves
there if they have something to show to the user.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-29 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-27 16:45 [RFC 0/3] Namespace IMA James Bottomley
2021-11-27 16:45 ` [RFC 1/3] userns: add uuid field James Bottomley
2021-11-28 4:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 13:29 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-28 15:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 18:00 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-28 20:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 21:21 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-28 21:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 22:56 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 1:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 13:49 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 13:56 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 14:19 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 13:09 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 13:12 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 13:46 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-27 16:45 ` [RFC 2/3] ima: Namespace IMA James Bottomley
2021-11-29 2:52 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-27 16:45 ` [RFC 3/3] ima: make the integrity inode cache per namespace James Bottomley
2021-11-29 4:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 12:50 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 13:53 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 14:10 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 14:22 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 14:46 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 15:27 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 16:23 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 15:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 16:07 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 4:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 16:16 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 16:23 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 17:04 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 17:29 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-30 5:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-30 11:55 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 13:33 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-30 13:44 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-30 13:38 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 16:44 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-30 4:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-30 13:00 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 14:30 ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2021-11-29 15:08 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 16:20 ` Christian Brauner
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