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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux.dev,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	Michael Peters <mpeters@redhat.com>,
	Luke Hinds <lhinds@redhat.com>,
	Lily Sturmann <lsturman@redhat.com>,
	Patrick Uiterwijk <puiterwi@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] ima: make the integrity inode cache per namespace
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:30:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1402f334-8072-48d1-b30b-2c2cdd4869dd@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a74b18c1aee2b14426cc12e2fd336716c447f070.camel@HansenPartnership.com>


On 11/29/21 09:10, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 08:53 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> On 11/29/21 07:50, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2021-11-28 at 22:58 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 04:45:49PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
>>>>> Currently we get one entry in the IMA log per unique file
>>>>> event.  So, if you have a measurement policy and it measures a
>>>>> particular binary it will not get measured again if it is
>>>>> subsequently executed. For Namespaced IMA, the correct
>>>>> behaviour
>>>>> seems to be to log once per inode per namespace (so every
>>>>> unique
>>>>> execution in a namespace gets a separate log entry).  Since
>>>>> logging
>>>>> once per inode per namespace is
>>>> I suspect I'll need to do a more in depth reading of the existing
>>>> code, but I'll ask the lazy question anyway (since you say "the
>>>> correct behavior seems to be") - is it actually important that
>>>> files which were appraised under a parent namespace's policy
>>>> already
>>>> should be logged again?
>>> I think so.  For a couple of reasons, assuming the namespace
>>> eventually
>>> gets its own log entries, which the next incremental patch proposed
>>> to
>>> do by virtualizing the securityfs entries.  If you don't do this:
>> To avoid duplicate efforts, an implementation of a virtualized
>> securityfs is in this series here:
>>
>> https://github.com/stefanberger/linux-ima-namespaces/commits/v5.15%2Bimans.20211119.v3
>>
>> It starts with 'securityfs: Prefix global variables with secruityfs_'
> That's quite a big patch series.  I already actually implemented this
> as part of the RFC for getting the per namespace measurement log.  The
> attached is basically what I did.

I know it's big. I tried to avoid having to bind-mount the system-wide 
single securityfs into the container and inherit all the other security 
subsystems' files and directories (evm, TPM, safesetid, apparmor, tomoyo 
[ https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/C/ident/securityfs_create_dir 
]) and instead have a  'view' that is a bit more restricted to those 
subsystems that are namespaced. The securityfs_ns I created can be 
mounted into each user namespace individually and only shows what you're 
supposed to see without other filesystem tricks to hide files or so. It 
should be future-extensible for other subsystem to register themselves 
there if they have something to show to the user.

    Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-29 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-27 16:45 [RFC 0/3] Namespace IMA James Bottomley
2021-11-27 16:45 ` [RFC 1/3] userns: add uuid field James Bottomley
2021-11-28  4:45   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 13:29     ` James Bottomley
2021-11-28 15:18       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 18:00         ` James Bottomley
2021-11-28 20:47           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 21:21             ` James Bottomley
2021-11-28 21:49               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-28 22:56                 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29  1:59                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 13:49                     ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 13:56                       ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 14:19                         ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 13:09                         ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 13:12                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 13:46                   ` James Bottomley
2021-11-27 16:45 ` [RFC 2/3] ima: Namespace IMA James Bottomley
2021-11-29  2:52   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-27 16:45 ` [RFC 3/3] ima: make the integrity inode cache per namespace James Bottomley
2021-11-29  4:58   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 12:50     ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 13:53       ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 14:10         ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 14:22           ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 14:46             ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 15:27               ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 16:23                 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 15:35               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 16:07                 ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30  4:42                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-29 16:16                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 16:23                   ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 17:04                   ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-29 17:29                     ` James Bottomley
2021-11-30  5:03                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-30 11:55                       ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 13:33                         ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-30 13:44                       ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-30 13:38                     ` Christian Brauner
2021-11-29 16:44                 ` James Bottomley
2021-11-30  4:59                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-11-30 13:00                     ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 14:30           ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2021-11-29 15:08             ` James Bottomley
2021-11-29 16:20             ` Christian Brauner

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