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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] user namespaces: add user_ns to super block
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:05:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080729180515.GB365@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217285230.25300.19.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Matt Helsley (matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> 
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:53 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> > 
> > >>From 420d6e81ce29d7a6fe3ab7b43c1171e105f8b697 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > From: Serge Hallyn <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:00:54 -0500
> > > Subject: [PATCH 4/6] user namespaces: add user_ns to super block
> > >
> > > Add a user_ns to the super_block, and set it to the user_ns of
> > > the process which mounted the fs.
> > >
> > > In generic_permission() compare the current user_ns to that
> > > of the user_ns which mounted the inode's filesystem.
> > 
> > I don't think this is the right approach.
> > 
> > When we had the conversation earlier this was conceptually rejected
> > as it prevents nfs superblock unification.
> > 
> > We really want to store this in the vfsmount and pass the user namespace down
> > from there to where we are going to use it if at all possible.
> > 
> > The vfsmount also appears necessary if we are ever going to support multiple
> > user namespaces per filesystem as the filesystem still need to know which 
> > user namespace to interpret it's data in.

The filesystem can figure that out based on current's context, no?

With the per-sb user_ns, the default behavior is indeed very limited,
but since you want to move all the user_ns functionality into the
filesystem, the fs can tag vfsmounts based on the "new remount" you
had talked about before.

> 	Would this require passing the vfsmount to the filesystems themselves,
> or would they be within the VFS code only? If not wholly within the VFS
> I wonder if Al Viro would object to this. He's resisted past attempts to
> pass the vfsmount structs into more filesystem code paths and I'm
> guessing that could affect whether or not this approach can be
> implemented.

Right, that's the main reason we might want to pursue the per-sb
approach.  Otherwise I would prefer the per-vfsmount approach.

Eric, if you think the per-vfsmount fight is worth fighting, then by all
means let's do it and see what happens.  So in that case ignore patches
3-5 from this set :)

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-29 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26  0:27 [PATCH 0/6] user namespaces: introduction Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <20080726002700.GA29686-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 1/6] user namespaces: introduce user_struct->user_namespace relationship Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080726002725.GA29874-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-26  2:07       ` [Devel] " Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]         ` <20080726020731.GA5115-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-26  3:31           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 2/6] user namespaces: move user_ns from nsproxy into user struct Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080726002735.GB29874-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 21:41       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <m1k5f5it4i.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-29 17:59           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 3/6] user namespaces: rig generic_permission for simple userns check Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 4/6] user namespaces: add user_ns to super block Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080726002754.GD29874-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 21:53       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <m13altislf.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 22:47           ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]             ` <1217285230.25300.19.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 23:03               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <m1skttehm6.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-29 18:09                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-29 18:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20080729180515.GB365-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-29 19:22                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m13alscx7e.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-02  0:06                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20080802000609.GA10211-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-02  1:49                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <m1wsj0i3td.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-03  0:37                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:28   ` [PATCH 5/6] user namespaces: refuse create in other user_ns Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:28   ` [PATCH 6/6] user_namespace: move put_user_ns outside lock Serge E. Hallyn

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