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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] user namespaces: add user_ns to super block
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:03:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1skttehm6.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217285230.25300.19.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org> (Matt Helsley's message of "Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:47:10 -0700")

Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> 	Would this require passing the vfsmount to the filesystems themselves,
> or would they be within the VFS code only? 

The interesting bit is the user_namespace contained in the vfsmount.  We
can pass that down.  I think semantically it makes sense for a filesystem
mount to only operate in a single mount namespace.

> If not wholly within the VFS
> I wonder if Al Viro would object to this. He's resisted past attempts to
> pass the vfsmount structs into more filesystem code paths and I'm
> guessing that could affect whether or not this approach can be
> implemented.

Dave Hansen raised that concern when we were talking about it earlier.  Since
we just care about a property of the mount it isn't a big deal.

Actually thinking about this a little farther it may be simplest to have the
mnt_namespace capture the user_namespace, although that doesn't seem to map
semantically very well with cloning of the filesystem.

This is very much a question of how do we map the uid/gids store in the filesystem
into the uids/gids in the kernel.  Which user namespace do they belong in.

Especially in the case of read only mounts we can safely share a filesystem between
user_namespaces with no changes to the filesystem.    Which I suspect is the
first case we want to allow as that is a tremendous savings in space if you have
lots of instances of the same distro, and people have been doing it with /usr
for years.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-28 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26  0:27 [PATCH 0/6] user namespaces: introduction Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <20080726002700.GA29686-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 1/6] user namespaces: introduce user_struct->user_namespace relationship Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080726002725.GA29874-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-26  2:07       ` [Devel] " Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]         ` <20080726020731.GA5115-QDJVlCTZ4KWTKS93B3g+7KFoa47nwP16@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-26  3:31           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 2/6] user namespaces: move user_ns from nsproxy into user struct Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080726002735.GB29874-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 21:41       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <m1k5f5it4i.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-29 17:59           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 3/6] user namespaces: rig generic_permission for simple userns check Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:27   ` [PATCH 4/6] user namespaces: add user_ns to super block Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080726002754.GD29874-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 21:53       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <m13altislf.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 22:47           ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]             ` <1217285230.25300.19.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-28 23:03               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <m1skttehm6.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-29 18:09                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-29 18:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20080729180515.GB365-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-29 19:22                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m13alscx7e.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-02  0:06                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20080802000609.GA10211-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-02  1:49                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <m1wsj0i3td.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-03  0:37                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:28   ` [PATCH 5/6] user namespaces: refuse create in other user_ns Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-26  0:28   ` [PATCH 6/6] user_namespace: move put_user_ns outside lock Serge E. Hallyn

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