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From: sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kyle-hoO6YkzgTuCM0SS3m2neIg@public.gmane.org,
	sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	bastian-yyjItF7Rl6lg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11][v3]: Enable multiple instances of devpts
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:18:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080904171828.GC11174@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C01163.1050704-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

H. Peter Anvin [hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>> O> We can't, really, because it will open the global ptmx.  This is an 
>>> unfortunate side effect of the backwards-compatibility code.
>>>
>>> This is also why I don't like the bind mount; the symlink option has the 
>>> nice property that f*ckups are more obvious.
>> It's asking for trouble with existing systems and users that
>> upgrade. /dev/ptmx should remain a proper device file for the non
>> container case.
>
> I did say that as being the desired *eventual* goal.
>
>> Should /dev/ptmx give you a node in the 'master' pty namespace or a node
>> in your current containers pty namespace ?
>
> Well, since there is no "current containers pty namespace" per se, it will 
> give you a node in the default (initial) pty namespace unless the bind
> mount is set up.

But that node will not be accessible if there is a newinstance mount
without the bind mount ? IOW

	1. mount -t devpts -o newinstance lxcpts /dev/pts
	2. mount -o bind /dev/pts/ptmx /dev/ptmx

If both #1 and #2 or neither happen there is no problem.

If #1 is NOT followed by #2, ptys break in new namespace.

An open of /dev/ptmx in this case will allocate a pty in the
initial namespace, but since #1 is complete, we lookup the
pty (/dev/pts/7) in the new namespace and fail.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-04 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-04  5:27 [PATCH 0/11][v3]: Enable multiple mounts of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <20080904052718.GA3680-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  5:29   ` [PATCH 1/11][v3]: Move tty lookup/reopen to tty_open sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:30   ` [PATCH 2/11][v3]: Add an instance parameter devpts interfaces sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 3/11][v3]: Simplify devpts_get_tty() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:32   ` [PATCH 4/11][v3]: Simplify devpts_pty_new() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:32   ` [PATCH 5/11][v3]: Simplify devpts_pty_kill sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:33   ` [PATCH 6/11][v3]: Remove devpts_root global sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:33   ` [PATCH 7/11][v3]: Per-mount allocated_ptys sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:34   ` [PATCH 8/11][v3]: Per-mount 'config' object sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:34   ` [PATCH 9/11][v3]: Extract option parsing to new function sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:35   ` [PATCH 10/11][v3]: Ability to internally create ptmx sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04  5:35   ` [PATCH 11/11][v3]: Enable multiple instances of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20080904053551.GL3680-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  6:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <48BF8283.7040601-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 15:54           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]             ` <20080904155431.GA11174-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:02               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <48C00698.8050803-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:25                   ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                     ` <20080904172542.3ad7bb85-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:48                       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                         ` <48C01163.1050704-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 17:18                           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <20080904171828.GC11174-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 17:31                               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                 ` <48C01B58.2040006-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05  2:01                                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                     ` <20080905020131.GA17535-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05  2:08                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-05 12:27                                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                         ` <20080905132710.50018aef-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 17:24                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                             ` <48C16B42.7030103-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 19:44                                               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                                 ` <20080905194450.GA18119-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-06 14:05                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                                     ` <48C28E3D.6060404-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-06 21:45                                                       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 16:08   ` [PATCH 0/11][v3]: Enable multiple mounts " sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA

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