From: sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kyle-hoO6YkzgTuCM0SS3m2neIg@public.gmane.org,
sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
bastian-yyjItF7Rl6lg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11][v3]: Enable multiple instances of devpts
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:01:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080905020131.GA17535@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C01B58.2040006-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
H. Peter Anvin [hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] wrote:
> sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> But that node will not be accessible if there is a newinstance mount
>> without the bind mount ? IOW
>> 1. mount -t devpts -o newinstance lxcpts /dev/pts
>> 2. mount -o bind /dev/pts/ptmx /dev/ptmx
>> If both #1 and #2 or neither happen there is no problem.
>> If #1 is NOT followed by #2, ptys break in new namespace.
>> An open of /dev/ptmx in this case will allocate a pty in the
>> initial namespace, but since #1 is complete, we lookup the
>> pty (/dev/pts/7) in the new namespace and fail.
>
> That is correct.
So afaics, we don't have any issues when operating only in one mode
(single-instance or multi-instance).
When both modes are used simultaneously, we have following options:
1. Let container-startup deal with it i.e use above bind-mount approach
or, as Serge mentioned, have containers chroot and make ptmx->pts/ptmx
symlink or another option ?
2. Have the ptmx-node even in the initial mount and a "permanent" ptmx
symlink - Did we fully rule it out :-)
3. Choose #2 with a (yet-another) config token. Not sure if it adds
value or further complicates the matrix.
Both #1 and #2 have their pros/cons. Long term, one advantage I see with #2
is that we don't force container-scripts do something now that they can/should
potentially undo later if we ever want to remove the single-instance semantics.
Does presence of /dev/pts/ptmx in single-instance case break userspace ?
If it only surprises, will adding notes to pts(4) man page help ?
Or are there other options ?
Thanks,
Suka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-05 2:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-04 5:27 [PATCH 0/11][v3]: Enable multiple mounts of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080904052718.GA3680-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 5:29 ` [PATCH 1/11][v3]: Move tty lookup/reopen to tty_open sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:30 ` [PATCH 2/11][v3]: Add an instance parameter devpts interfaces sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:31 ` [PATCH 3/11][v3]: Simplify devpts_get_tty() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:32 ` [PATCH 4/11][v3]: Simplify devpts_pty_new() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:32 ` [PATCH 5/11][v3]: Simplify devpts_pty_kill sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:33 ` [PATCH 6/11][v3]: Remove devpts_root global sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:33 ` [PATCH 7/11][v3]: Per-mount allocated_ptys sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:34 ` [PATCH 8/11][v3]: Per-mount 'config' object sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:34 ` [PATCH 9/11][v3]: Extract option parsing to new function sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:35 ` [PATCH 10/11][v3]: Ability to internally create ptmx sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 5:35 ` [PATCH 11/11][v3]: Enable multiple instances of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080904053551.GL3680-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 6:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48BF8283.7040601-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 15:54 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080904155431.GA11174-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48C00698.8050803-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:25 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20080904172542.3ad7bb85-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48C01163.1050704-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 17:18 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080904171828.GC11174-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 17:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48C01B58.2040006-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 2:01 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA [this message]
[not found] ` <20080905020131.GA17535-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 2:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-05 12:27 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20080905132710.50018aef-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 17:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48C16B42.7030103-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-05 19:44 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080905194450.GA18119-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-06 14:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48C28E3D.6060404-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-06 21:45 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-09-04 16:08 ` [PATCH 0/11][v3]: Enable multiple mounts " sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
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