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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org"
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Tanaka,
	Thomas" <thomas.tanaka-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Hansen
	<dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Building a SECURE cointainer using Cgroups ?
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:53:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081014085339.GA10745@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081013192921.GA10814-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 02:29:21PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Dave Hansen (dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org):
> > On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 11:01 -0700, Tanaka, Thomas wrote:
> > > Yes absolutely that is what I am trying to achieve.
> > 
> > I'm going to put on my Serge hat and bet that you can do it with
> > security modules. :)
> 
> Right, your goal is still not very precise, but a security module -
> smack or selinux - might be your best bet.
> 
> > There's nothing that cgroups or containers gives you that will help with
> > your problem.  We actually haven't touched the fs namespaces at all, yet
> > because they work great as they stand today.
> 
> No, but there is the device whitelist cgroup and capability bounding
> sets - perhaps that is what he is asking about?
> 
> If you have a normal chroot - or a container created with
> clone(CLONE_NEWNS) followed by pivot_root into a completely isolated
> file system tree (say, created using debootstrap), then a root user in
> that pivot_root can simply mount /dev/hda1 /mnt and chroot back into
> that.
> 
> So to make the above a little more secure, you can
> 
> 	1. restrict the container's device whitelist so that it can't
> 	   create or use the devices representing the hard drive.

We follow this appraoch & use the device whitelist capability in libvirt's
LXC driver now for exactly this purpose. Works quite nicely really. There
are still some other holes like a private dev-pts but those are in progress

Daniel
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-14  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-13 17:03 Building a SECURE cointainer using Cgroups ? Tanaka, Thomas
     [not found] ` <0A97A441BFADC74EA1E299A79C69DF9212D3F6C9E2-osO9UTpF0UQ64kNsxIetb7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 17:54   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-13 18:01     ` Tanaka, Thomas
     [not found]       ` <0A97A441BFADC74EA1E299A79C69DF9212D3F6CA1B-osO9UTpF0UQ64kNsxIetb7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 18:25         ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-13 19:29           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20081013192921.GA10814-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 20:57               ` Tanaka, Thomas
     [not found]                 ` <0A97A441BFADC74EA1E299A79C69DF9212D3F6CA82-osO9UTpF0UQ64kNsxIetb7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 21:04                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20081013210420.GA26529-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 21:13                       ` Tanaka, Thomas
2008-10-14  8:53               ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]

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