From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
Sukadev Bhattiprolu
<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
"David C. Hansen"
<haveblue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Dave Hansen
<dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] /proc/pid/checkpointable
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:29:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090325172938.GA18957@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17i2dx00b.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 13:03 -0700, Mike Waychison wrote:
> >> Polluting the dmesg buffer with messages from common failures (consider
> >> a multi-user cluster where checkpoints may or may not succeed) isn't
> >> very useful.
> >
> > Yeah, I've already gotten an earful from Serge and Dan S. about this. :)
> >
> > Serge suggested that, perhaps, the audit framework could be used. We
> > might also use an ftrace buffer if we want to keep a whole ton of
> > messages around, too.
> >
> > dmesg is definitely not workable long-term at all.
>
> How about having place holder objects in the generated checkpoint.
> Then instead of having a failure you have a non-restoreable checkpoint.
> But you know which fd, or which mmaped region, or which other thing
> is causing the problem and if you want more information you can
> look at that resource.
>
> That gives user space the freedom and scrub out the non-checkpointable
> bits and replace them with something like /dev/null so that we can
> continue on and restore the checkpoint anyway, if we think our
> app can cope with some things going away.
>
> Eric
I like this idea.
Subystems which are temporarily entirely unsupported (like sysvipc)
would need at least a dummy section in the format wherein we can at
least say 'unsupported', otherwise we'll still just get a meaningless
-EINVAL.
I actually got bitten yesterday by trying to checkpoint a task that
wasn't frozen. I forgot v14 had that check, and my failures (a
segfault actually) weren't helpful.
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-25 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-17 6:27 [PATCH 0/6] /proc/pid/checkpointable Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090317062754.GA2377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 6:38 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17 6:38 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17 6:39 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17 6:39 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17 6:39 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090317063940.GF2377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 8:55 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49C0B6FF.5030104-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 13:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090318135953.GE22636-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 16:16 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49C11E61.4010505-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 16:24 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18 17:48 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49C133F9.2020505-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 18:06 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18 16:23 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49C1201A.3050604-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 17:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090318171840.GA29523-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 17:50 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49C1347F.3000601-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 20:03 ` Mike Waychison
[not found] ` <49C153AF.7070504-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-25 12:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m17i2dx00b.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-25 17:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
[not found] ` <20090325172938.GA18957-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-26 9:52 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <49CB504A.2080400-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-26 13:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-18 14:42 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-17 6:39 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090317063958.GG2377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 8:56 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49C0B750.4050109-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 13:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-17 6:55 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
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2009-03-17 17:43 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090317174359.GA10796-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 9:28 ` Oren Laadan
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