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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan
	<adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] cr: define CHECKPOINT_SUBTREE flag and sysctl
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:38:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090427203858.GA32290@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49F61181.9010809-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Oren Laadan (orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org):
> 
> 
> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Nathan Lynch (ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
> >> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>> Quoting Nathan Lynch (ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
> >>>> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>>>> +	cnt = ref->users + 1;
> >>>>> +	switch (ref->type) {
> >>>>> +	case CR_OBJ_UTSNS:
> >>>>> +		utsns = ref->ptr;
> >>>>> +		cnt2 = (unsigned long) atomic_read(&utsns->kref.refcount);
> >>>>> +		if (cnt != cnt2) {
> >>>>> +			cr_debug("uts namespace leak\n");
> >>>> I'm struggling to understand what guarantee a check such as this is
> >>>> supposed to be making.  I see that it will catch *some* undesirable
> >>>> cases.  But "current refcount equals old refcount" does not imply that
> >>>> "refcount has not changed in the meantime".
> >>> It's got nothing to do with the refcounts changing.
> >>>
> >>> It ensures that, at the end of the checkpoint, the resources (utsns
> >>> in this case) had no users not accounted for by a checkpointed task.
> >>> In other words, there was no information leak.
> >> Okay, I had mistakenly believed this code was running in the
> >> subtree/non-container case.  I reread your patch description and it
> >> indicates that these checks are made only in the case of container
> >> checkpoint.  If I'm (finally) understanding the patch correctly, my
> >> concern is lessened.  Comparing refcounts is still... unconventional.
> > 
> > Yes, and there are cases where it won't be usable - for instance if
> > opening a procfile increments the resource->use count.  That should
> > not be an issue for utsns, ipcns, files, or vmas, afaik.
> 
> Actually, one such case is if you have a FIFO - and a task outside the
> "container" (for whatever definition we choose) opens that FIFO because
> the right thingie is mounted in its (distinct) mounts namespace.

That'll affect the CR_OBJ_INODE object, right?  (Not the CR_OBJ_FILE
one).

> Also, unsure if unix domain sockets (those visible through the file
> system, not the "abstract" type) are otherwise isolated as well ?

Yes, they are isolated by network namespace, to the chagrin of some
people.

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-27 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-24 21:06 [PATCH 1/1] cr: define CHECKPOINT_SUBTREE flag and sysctl Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <20090424210608.GA16973-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-25  0:07   ` Nathan Lynch
     [not found]     ` <m3vdotk34g.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-25  2:45       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20090425024515.GA4534-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-25  2:51           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20090425025154.GA4596-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27  4:37               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-04-27 17:14           ` Nathan Lynch
     [not found]             ` <m3y6tmt3wb.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 18:07               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20090427180717.GA28476-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 18:37                   ` Nathan Lynch
2009-04-27 19:09                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                     ` <20090427190947.GA14148-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 19:30                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-04-27 20:11                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <49F61181.9010809-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 20:38                       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20090427203858.GA32290-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 22:13                           ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-25  8:39   ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]     ` <20090425083908.GA2767-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 14:57       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20090430145735.GA19684-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 15:14           ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]             ` <49F9C044.8040907-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 15:26               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20090430152615.GC19684-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 15:40                   ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-27 20:12   ` Oren Laadan

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