From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
Nathan Lynch <ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Alexey Dobriyan
<adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] cr: define CHECKPOINT_SUBTREE flag and sysctl
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:13:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F62E1D.20003@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090427203858.GA32290-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Oren Laadan (orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org):
>>
>> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>> Quoting Nathan Lynch (ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
>>>> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>>> Quoting Nathan Lynch (ntl-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
>>>>>> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>>>>> + cnt = ref->users + 1;
>>>>>>> + switch (ref->type) {
>>>>>>> + case CR_OBJ_UTSNS:
>>>>>>> + utsns = ref->ptr;
>>>>>>> + cnt2 = (unsigned long) atomic_read(&utsns->kref.refcount);
>>>>>>> + if (cnt != cnt2) {
>>>>>>> + cr_debug("uts namespace leak\n");
>>>>>> I'm struggling to understand what guarantee a check such as this is
>>>>>> supposed to be making. I see that it will catch *some* undesirable
>>>>>> cases. But "current refcount equals old refcount" does not imply that
>>>>>> "refcount has not changed in the meantime".
>>>>> It's got nothing to do with the refcounts changing.
>>>>>
>>>>> It ensures that, at the end of the checkpoint, the resources (utsns
>>>>> in this case) had no users not accounted for by a checkpointed task.
>>>>> In other words, there was no information leak.
>>>> Okay, I had mistakenly believed this code was running in the
>>>> subtree/non-container case. I reread your patch description and it
>>>> indicates that these checks are made only in the case of container
>>>> checkpoint. If I'm (finally) understanding the patch correctly, my
>>>> concern is lessened. Comparing refcounts is still... unconventional.
>>> Yes, and there are cases where it won't be usable - for instance if
>>> opening a procfile increments the resource->use count. That should
>>> not be an issue for utsns, ipcns, files, or vmas, afaik.
>> Actually, one such case is if you have a FIFO - and a task outside the
>> "container" (for whatever definition we choose) opens that FIFO because
>> the right thingie is mounted in its (distinct) mounts namespace.
>
> That'll affect the CR_OBJ_INODE object, right? (Not the CR_OBJ_FILE
> one).
Yes. And the point is that this leak cannot be reliably detected.
... unless you hide FIFO's in the network namespace :o
(no ! I'm no suggesting...)
Oren.
>
>> Also, unsure if unix domain sockets (those visible through the file
>> system, not the "abstract" type) are otherwise isolated as well ?
>
> Yes, they are isolated by network namespace, to the chagrin of some
> people.
>
> -serge
>
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-24 21:06 [PATCH 1/1] cr: define CHECKPOINT_SUBTREE flag and sysctl Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090424210608.GA16973-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-25 0:07 ` Nathan Lynch
[not found] ` <m3vdotk34g.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-25 2:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090425024515.GA4534-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-25 2:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090425025154.GA4596-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 4:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-04-27 17:14 ` Nathan Lynch
[not found] ` <m3y6tmt3wb.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 18:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090427180717.GA28476-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 18:37 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-04-27 19:09 ` Alexey Dobriyan
[not found] ` <20090427190947.GA14148-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 19:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-04-27 20:11 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49F61181.9010809-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 20:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090427203858.GA32290-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-27 22:13 ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2009-04-25 8:39 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20090425083908.GA2767-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 14:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090430145735.GA19684-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 15:14 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49F9C044.8040907-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 15:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090430152615.GC19684-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 15:40 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-27 20:12 ` Oren Laadan
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