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From: Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Albert Cahalan <acahalan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Randy Dunlap
	<randy.dunlap-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <nathanl-V7BBcbaFuwjMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dan Smith <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu
	<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11][v15]: Document sys_eclone
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:02:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100712180223.GD3129@count0.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilJMi8cXSlbG8towQFFAQpuuJjO9kDXWOfEu_EJ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 05:00:10AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Sukadev Bhattiprolu
> <sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Arnd Bergmann [arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org] wrote:
> > | On Monday 05 July 2010, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > | > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > | > > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:41:30PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > | > >> <sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:

<snip>

> > | > You'd be copying from a struct in userspace to some random local
> > | > variables in the kernel. There is no reason why the kernel would
> > | > have to use a struct at all. You copy the flags, then see what else
> > | > you need to copy.
> > |
> > | Exactly. The size argument is also my main criticism of the suggested
> > | syscall, and I've been arguing the same as you.
> > |
> > | Note that you may still use copy the entire struct, provided that we
> > | leave enough reserved fields at the end for future extensions. If
> > | we run out of space ten years from now, we can still have a new syscall
> > | number with a new structure.
> >
> > If we need the API to be extendible, to me specifying the size in the
> > API seems more explicit than using the flags.
> 
> Is there any other system call with this sort of extendability?
> You're going against history and IIRC policy.
>
> Most explicit would be a version number, but even that is
> forbidden AFAIK.

Have a look at set_robust_list() -- it passes a size parameter for a
struct.

Lots of socket calls take a socklen_t for a variable-size address struct.
(Granted, they all go through socketcall, but that's a bit beside the
point.)

read() and write() syscalls operating on pseudofiles can be for structs
(e.g. signalfd_siginfo) and thus indirectly do this.

Cheers,
	-Matt Helsley

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-12 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-03 20:32 [PATCH 00/11][v15]: Implement eclone() system call Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found] ` <1278189164-28408-1-git-send-email-sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 01/11][v15]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 02/11][v15]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 03/11][v15]: Define set_pidmap() function Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 04/11][v15]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 05/11][v15]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 06/11][v15]: Check invalid clone flags Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 07/11][v15]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 08/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for x86 (32,64) Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 09/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for s390 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 10/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for powerpc Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 11/11][v15]: Document sys_eclone Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]     ` <1278189164-28408-12-git-send-email-sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-03 23:41       ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTinM1jqG-9Mgbzft8bALGri7ZpzU9ZcPbMTe4fvW-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-04 23:39           ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]             ` <20100704233951.GK3338-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-05  0:45               ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTilTGvFTkjy8vi8N8msB7koEp0r7SnpPqJkVN4XA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-05 10:34                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                     ` <201007051234.40943.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 22:25                       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                         ` <20100706222554.GA7648-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-11  9:00                           ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                             ` <AANLkTilJMi8cXSlbG8towQFFAQpuuJjO9kDXWOfEu_EJ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-12 18:02                               ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2010-07-12 21:54                               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                                 ` <20100712215456.GA23721-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13  6:48                                   ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                                     ` <AANLkTikXDsv9CoV_EU48bunLD1wCh3w7HVdpo84rJtJg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-20 22:13                                       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                                         ` <20100720221357.GA2440-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-21 19:51                                           ` Albert Cahalan
2010-07-05  4:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <4C315B42.1020201-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06  4:11                   ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTimWBFbcRyf5tvA9Lork13gAJtCAdUg_ZS3PzbI0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 15:14                       ` Oren Laadan
2010-07-05  4:18               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <4C315D2D.6000107-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06  3:59                   ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTinr_2u-_0S2UvMDc7hOE_JOVIOjGtVo9Tzuk21E-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 13:12                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-06 15:12                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                         ` <4C3347CA.8060703-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 22:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin

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