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From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: Albert Cahalan <acahalan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Randy Dunlap
	<randy.dunlap-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <nathanl-V7BBcbaFuwjMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dan Smith <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu
	<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11][v15]: Document sys_eclone
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:14:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C33483C.2050306@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimWBFbcRyf5tvA9Lork13gAJtCAdUg_ZS3PzbI0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>



Albert Cahalan wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:10 AM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On 07/04/2010 04:39 PM, Matt Helsley wrote:
>>>> 1. can you implement it for i386 (register starved) using eclone?
>>> That's a very good question. I'm going to punt on a direct answer for
>>> now. Instead,  I wonder if it's even worth enabling vfork through eclone.
>>> vfork is rarely used, is supported by the "old" clone syscall, and any
>>> old code adapted to use eclone for vfork would need significant
>>> changes because of vfork's specialness. (A consequence of the way vfork
>>> borrows page tables and must avoid clobbering parent's registers..)
>> vfork is its own system call for a reason.  We used to do it with
>> sys_clone, and it turned out to be a mess.  Doing it in a separate
>> system call -- even though the internals are largely the same -- is cleaner.
> 
> That's interesting; only ia64 and xtensa still do vfork via clone.
> I remember sys_vfork being purely i386.
> 
> I guess we need an evfork then. We're slowly gaining all sorts
> of functionality (various clone flags) that is inaccessible when
> there is a need for vfork behavior.

For the record, as far as I can tell, we don't need evfork() for
checkpoint-restart. So you'd need to come up with other use cases.

Oren.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-06 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-03 20:32 [PATCH 00/11][v15]: Implement eclone() system call Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found] ` <1278189164-28408-1-git-send-email-sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 01/11][v15]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 02/11][v15]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 03/11][v15]: Define set_pidmap() function Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 04/11][v15]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 05/11][v15]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 06/11][v15]: Check invalid clone flags Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 07/11][v15]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 08/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for x86 (32,64) Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 09/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for s390 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 10/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for powerpc Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32   ` [PATCH 11/11][v15]: Document sys_eclone Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]     ` <1278189164-28408-12-git-send-email-sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-03 23:41       ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTinM1jqG-9Mgbzft8bALGri7ZpzU9ZcPbMTe4fvW-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-04 23:39           ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]             ` <20100704233951.GK3338-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-05  0:45               ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTilTGvFTkjy8vi8N8msB7koEp0r7SnpPqJkVN4XA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-05 10:34                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                     ` <201007051234.40943.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 22:25                       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                         ` <20100706222554.GA7648-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-11  9:00                           ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                             ` <AANLkTilJMi8cXSlbG8towQFFAQpuuJjO9kDXWOfEu_EJ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-12 18:02                               ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-12 21:54                               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                                 ` <20100712215456.GA23721-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13  6:48                                   ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                                     ` <AANLkTikXDsv9CoV_EU48bunLD1wCh3w7HVdpo84rJtJg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-20 22:13                                       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                                         ` <20100720221357.GA2440-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-21 19:51                                           ` Albert Cahalan
2010-07-05  4:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <4C315B42.1020201-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06  4:11                   ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTimWBFbcRyf5tvA9Lork13gAJtCAdUg_ZS3PzbI0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 15:14                       ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2010-07-05  4:18               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <4C315D2D.6000107-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06  3:59                   ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTinr_2u-_0S2UvMDc7hOE_JOVIOjGtVo9Tzuk21E-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 13:12                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-06 15:12                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                         ` <4C3347CA.8060703-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 22:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin

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