From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Janne Karhunen <janne.karhunen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
"Eric W. Biederman"
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] fs: allow dev accesses in userns in controlled situations
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:37:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130319153740.GA21908@sergelap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE=Ncradvs_twWT8b6NQz85dm-Y8ayTH7NFv=i0vjYXpRBW9sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Quoting Janne Karhunen (janne.karhunen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> >> We will do that by marking the mount as MNT_NODEV_NS instead of
> >> MNT_NODEV. This is because if the mount operation explicitly asked for
> >> nodev, we ought to respect it. MNT_NODEV_NS will forbid accesses if the
> >> task is not on a device cgroup. If it is, we will rely on the control
> >> rules in devcg to intermediate the access an tell us what those tasks
> >> can or cannot do.
> >
> > Well the devcg was meant to be a temporary stopgap solution until we
> > have device namespaces, and this seems to entrench them further, but
> > it does make sense.
>
> Just out of interest, what would such device namespace actually
> do other than switch the device access on/off according to callers
> namespace?
It could also support mapping of <type>:maj:min inside namespace to
a different device on host. In most cases we probably don't actually
want that, but it's an interesting enough thing to be worth thinking
through.
> 'Device namespace' Cells whitepaper [1] talks about seems to be
> saying they also implemented a callback for some drivers (only
oh, thanks, haven't read that one, will have to.
> init_ns accessible ioctl?) to support their 'foreground/background'
> use case. While this is certainly one use case, it's certainly nothing
> generic.
>
> 1. http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~nieh/pubs/sosp2011_cells.pdf
>
>
> --
> Janne
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-19 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-15 9:13 [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts in user namespaces Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 1/4] dev_cgroup: keep track of which cgroup is the root cgroup Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:07 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 19:27 ` Aristeu Rozanski
[not found] ` <20130315140743.GC3782@sergelap>
2013-03-15 14:43 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <514333A2.5060408@parallels.com>
[not found] ` <514333A2.5060408-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:55 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: allow dev accesses in userns in controlled situations Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:20 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130315142045.GD3782@sergelap>
2013-03-19 15:32 ` Janne Karhunen
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2013-03-19 15:37 ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2013-03-19 16:52 ` Janne Karhunen
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2013-03-19 17:27 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 18:08 ` Janne Karhunen
[not found] ` <CAE=NcraBvk_hwCd9BgASpDBkmEB+fg-kKwAPbT7bQeFRbq5DSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 19:15 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 23:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod in user namespaces Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 9:13 ` [PATCH 4/4] devpts: fix usage " Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 10:26 ` [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87boalt0vi.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 12:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:00 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130315140040.GB3782@sergelap>
2013-03-15 14:42 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5143333E.1040100@parallels.com>
[not found] ` <5143333E.1040100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:21 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 15:26 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51433DBE.9020109@parallels.com>
[not found] ` <51433DBE.9020109-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:58 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20130315155822.GA30652@sergelap>
2013-03-15 16:01 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <87txoce5qy.fsf@xmission.com>
[not found] ` <87txoce5qy.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-18 3:20 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130318032052.GA5958@sergelap>
2013-03-18 21:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-5-git-send-email-glommer@parallels.com>
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] devpts: fix usage " Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-4-git-send-email-glommer@parallels.com>
[not found] ` <20130315143741.GE3782@sergelap>
2013-03-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod " Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51433511.1020808@parallels.com>
[not found] ` <51433511.1020808-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:14 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <1363338823-25292-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:37 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 18:03 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-03-15 20:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
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[not found] ` <87a9q4gzs1.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-16 0:23 ` Serge Hallyn
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