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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts in user namespaces
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:01:42 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514345E6.2070901@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130315155822.GA30652@sergelap>

On 03/15/2013 07:58 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Glauber Costa (glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org):
>> On 03/15/2013 07:21 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
>>> Quoting Glauber Costa (glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org):
>>>> On 03/15/2013 06:00 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
>>>>> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
>>>>>> Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> devpts mounts in user namespaces is queued for 3.9. However, while playing
>>>>>>> with it I found it to be less than ideal. Although it could possibly work
>>>>>>> with custom software that can be made to point to /dev/pts/ptmx, a few things
>>>>>>> prevent it from working correctly for people that, like us, are booting full
>>>>>>> distributions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Full distributions that have not been modified to be minimally container
>>>>>> aware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, in fact in this case it doesn't need to be minimally container
>>>>> aware, you just create the bind mount yourself and init just needs to
>>>>> accept that it shouldn't touch it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, what if it doesn't?
>>>>
>>>> At least in the system I am using, centos6, udev mounts a tmpfs in a
>>>> temporary location, and then mount --move this to /dev. This is now
>>>> empty, and devpts will be mounted ontop of that.
>>>
>>> This also messes up your /dev/ttyN setup right?  How are you handling
>>> that?
>>>
>> very simple: udev will just mknod everything back, so let him!
> 
> So you're not using bind-mounted ptys over /dev/ttyN?
> 
Not in particular, and I haven't felt the need yet.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-15 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-15  9:13 [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts in user namespaces Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1363338823-25292-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 1/4] dev_cgroup: keep track of which cgroup is the root cgroup Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <20130315140743.GC3782@sergelap>
2013-03-15 14:43       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]       ` <514333A2.5060408@parallels.com>
     [not found]         ` <514333A2.5060408-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:55           ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <1363338823-25292-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:07       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 19:27       ` Aristeu Rozanski
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: allow dev accesses in userns in controlled situations Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1363338823-25292-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:20       ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20130315142045.GD3782@sergelap>
2013-03-19 15:32       ` Janne Karhunen
     [not found]         ` <CAE=Ncradvs_twWT8b6NQz85dm-Y8ayTH7NFv=i0vjYXpRBW9sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 15:37           ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 16:52             ` Janne Karhunen
     [not found]               ` <CAE=NcrYeKQYqkPsB9FG5PpYd2VTqmTszfpY39aRJqR=vsXfa7w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 17:27                 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 18:08                   ` Janne Karhunen
     [not found]                     ` <CAE=NcraBvk_hwCd9BgASpDBkmEB+fg-kKwAPbT7bQeFRbq5DSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19 19:15                       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-19 23:29                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod in user namespaces Glauber Costa
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 4/4] devpts: fix usage " Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 10:26   ` [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87boalt0vi.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 12:01       ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:00       ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20130315140040.GB3782@sergelap>
2013-03-15 14:42       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]       ` <5143333E.1040100@parallels.com>
     [not found]         ` <5143333E.1040100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:21           ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 15:26             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <51433DBE.9020109@parallels.com>
     [not found]               ` <51433DBE.9020109-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:58                 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 21:02                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <20130315155822.GA30652@sergelap>
2013-03-15 16:01                 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
     [not found]               ` <87txoce5qy.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]                 ` <87txoce5qy.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-18  3:20                   ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20130318032052.GA5958@sergelap>
2013-03-18 21:23                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <1363338823-25292-5-git-send-email-glommer@parallels.com>
     [not found]   ` <1363338823-25292-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:45     ` [PATCH 4/4] devpts: fix usage " Serge Hallyn
     [not found] ` <1363338823-25292-4-git-send-email-glommer@parallels.com>
     [not found]   ` <20130315143741.GE3782@sergelap>
2013-03-15 14:49     ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod " Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <51433511.1020808@parallels.com>
     [not found]       ` <51433511.1020808-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:14         ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]   ` <1363338823-25292-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:37     ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 18:03     ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-03-15 20:43     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]   ` <87a9q4gzs1.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]     ` <87a9q4gzs1.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-16  0:23       ` Serge Hallyn

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