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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Stefan Berger
	<stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mimi Zohar
	<zohar-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	xiaolong.ye-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	lkp-JC7UmRfGjtg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 22:05:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170615030543.GA8979@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce471b11-e76a-25f3-eae8-eca30e7233af-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 08:27:40AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 06/13/2017 07:55 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org):
> >>  If all extended
> >>attributes were to support this model, maybe the 'uid' could be
> >>associated with the 'name' of the xattr rather than its 'value' (not
> >>sure whether that's possible).
> >Right, I missed that in your original email when I saw it this morning.
> >It's not what my patch does, but it's an interesting idea.  Do you have
> >a patch to that effect?  We might even be able to generalize that to
> 
> No, I don't have a patch. It may not be possible to implement it.
> The xattr_handler's  take the name of the xattr as input to get().

That may be ok though.  Assume the host created a container with
100000 as the uid for root, which created a container with 130000 as
uid for root.  If root in the nested container tries to read the
xattr, the kernel can check for security.foo[130000] first, then
security.foo[100000], then security.foo.  Or, it can do a listxattr
and look for those.  Am I overlooking one?

> So one could try to encode the mapped uid in the name. However, that

I thought that's exactly what you were suggesting in your original
email?  "security.capability[uid=2000]"

> could lead to problems with stale xattrs in a shared filesystem over
> time unless one could limit the number of xattrs with the same
> prefix, e.g., security.capability*. So I doubt that it would work.

Hm.  Yeah.  But really how many setups are there like that?  I.e. if
you launch a regular docker or lxd container, the image doesn't do a
bind mount of a shared image, it layers something above it or does a
copy.  What setups do you know of where multiple containers in different
user namespaces mount the same filesystem shared and writeable?

> Otherwise it would be good if the value was wrapped in a data
> structure use by all xattrs, but that doesn't seem to be the case,
> either. So I guess we have to go into each type of value structure
> and add a uid field there.
> 
> >namespace any security.* xattrs.  Wouldn't be automatically enabled
> >for anything but ima and capabilities, but we could make the infrastructure
> >generic and re-usable.
> >

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-15  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-07  9:21 64fa03de33: BUG:Dentry_still_in_use kernel test robot
     [not found] ` <20170507092105.GA67584-aQzoWfPLU1itqXYlAKuG4QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08  4:44   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20170508044408.GA11400-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 11:47       ` Masami Ichikawa
     [not found]         ` <CACOXgS9a=avAWZEre1Q1CGjSHeq78Pkq1fYfwPjiyEX-u=B5wQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 15:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-08 18:11           ` [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20170508181156.GA23112-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-09 16:55               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87a86mvuko.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-09 20:37                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20170509203736.GB14900-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-09 22:27                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-13 15:47               ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]             ` <9f80188c-df03-066a-5dac-785cc711d064@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]               ` <9f80188c-df03-066a-5dac-785cc711d064-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 17:14                 ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
2017-06-13 17:18                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-13 23:42                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                   ` <20170613234214.GA15685-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 23:50                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]               ` <20170613171422.i5vsylhqqo736car@smitten>
2017-06-13 17:42                 ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                   ` <f7c51332-e405-f337-3938-ad93bab8f50d-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 20:51                     ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
2017-06-13 17:45                 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                   ` <1497375902.7379.25.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 20:46                     ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
     [not found]                   ` <20170613204612.uztqywc7topa6g2h@smitten>
2017-06-13 20:49                     ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                     ` <8933bf11-7ca2-fa12-8d51-46d94d94a182@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                       ` <8933bf11-7ca2-fa12-8d51-46d94d94a182-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 20:53                         ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
     [not found]                       ` <20170613205312.gre2s6a3zsrjnyos@smitten>
2017-06-13 20:58                         ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:59                         ` Mimi Zohar
     [not found]                         ` <1497387570.21594.427.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                           ` <1497387570.21594.427.camel-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 21:09                             ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
     [not found]               ` <20170613171818.GA9070@mail.hallyn.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20170613171818.GA9070-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 18:12                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                 ` <74e490f3-3c47-abfa-86ae-0fa0d1ddb43a@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <74e490f3-3c47-abfa-86ae-0fa0d1ddb43a-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 23:55                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                   ` <20170613235521.GC15685@mail.hallyn.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20170613235521.GC15685-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-14 12:27                       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                         ` <ce471b11-e76a-25f3-eae8-eca30e7233af-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-15  3:05                           ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <20170615030543.GA8979-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-16  9:02                               ` Christian Brauner
2017-06-16 22:24                               ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-17 20:56                               ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                 ` <f0df1914-bca2-31a0-cdba-df30d85d70b3-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-18 22:14                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                     ` <20170618221418.GA364-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-19  1:13                                       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                         ` <e9720595-2cdc-4dd7-57e7-95b85896d4ac-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-19 13:05                                           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20  6:23                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-19 21:34                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <87tw3boe5d.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20  5:42                                           ` Amir Goldstein
     [not found]                                         ` <CAOQ4uxhi5fezF7e9FpS=hHUb1LqzyCNq9BcG14RV_Srj1hS-Vw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                           ` <CAOQ4uxhi5fezF7e9FpS=hHUb1LqzyCNq9BcG14RV_Srj1hS-Vw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 12:19                                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                               ` <645d3a5e-4b76-cc90-50d6-4a7a7c3b678c-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 17:33                                                 ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                   ` <87dfaf3b-f466-9831-1c76-32d4cabd8cf6-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 19:56                                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-20 19:57                                             ` Vivek Goyal

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