From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Stefan Berger
<stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
Mimi Zohar
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containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 16:34:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tw3boe5d.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170618221418.GA364-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:14:18 -0500")
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org):
>> On 06/14/2017 11:05 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>> >On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 08:27:40AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> >>On 06/13/2017 07:55 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>> >>>Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org):
>> >>>> If all extended
>> >>>>attributes were to support this model, maybe the 'uid' could be
>> >>>>associated with the 'name' of the xattr rather than its 'value' (not
>> >>>>sure whether that's possible).
>> >>>Right, I missed that in your original email when I saw it this morning.
>> >>>It's not what my patch does, but it's an interesting idea. Do you have
>> >>>a patch to that effect? We might even be able to generalize that to
>> >>No, I don't have a patch. It may not be possible to implement it.
>> >>The xattr_handler's take the name of the xattr as input to get().
>> >That may be ok though. Assume the host created a container with
>> >100000 as the uid for root, which created a container with 130000 as
>> >uid for root. If root in the nested container tries to read the
>> >xattr, the kernel can check for security.foo[130000] first, then
>> >security.foo[100000], then security.foo. Or, it can do a listxattr
>> >and look for those. Am I overlooking one?
>> >
>> >>So one could try to encode the mapped uid in the name. However, that
>> >I thought that's exactly what you were suggesting in your original
>> >email? "security.capability[uid=2000]"
>> >
>> >>could lead to problems with stale xattrs in a shared filesystem over
>> >>time unless one could limit the number of xattrs with the same
>> >>prefix, e.g., security.capability*. So I doubt that it would work.
>> >Hm. Yeah. But really how many setups are there like that? I.e. if
>> >you launch a regular docker or lxd container, the image doesn't do a
>> >bind mount of a shared image, it layers something above it or does a
>> >copy. What setups do you know of where multiple containers in different
>> >user namespaces mount the same filesystem shared and writeable?
>>
>> I think I have something now that accomodates userns access to
>> security.capability:
>>
>> https://github.com/stefanberger/linux/commits/xattr_for_userns
>
> Thanks!
>
>> Encoding of uid is in the attribute name now as follows:
>> security.foo@uid=<uid>
>>
>> 1) The 'plain' security.capability is only r/w accessible from the
>> host (init_user_ns).
>> 2) When userns reads/writes 'security.capability' it will read/write
>> security.capability@uid=<uid> instead, with uid being the uid of
>> root , e.g. 1000.
>> 3) When listing xattrs for userns the host's security.capability is
>> filtered out to avoid read failures iof 'security.capability' if
>> security.capability@uid=<uid> is read but not there. (see 1) and 2))
>> 4) security.capability* may all be read from anywhere
>> 5) security.capability@uid=<uid> may be read or written directly
>> from a userns if <uid> matches the uid of root (current_uid())
>
> This looks very close to what we want. One exception - we do want
> to support root in a user namespace being able to write
> security.capability@uid=<x> where <x> is a valid uid mapped in its
> namespace. In that case the name should be rewritten to be
> security.capability@uid=<y> where y is the unmapped kuid.val.
>
> Eric,
>
> so far my patch hasn't yet hit Linus' tree. Given that, would you
> mind taking a look and seeing what you think of this approach? If
> we may decide to go this route, we probably should stop my patch
> from hitting Linus' tree before we have to continue supporting it.
Agreed. I will take a look. I also want to see how all of this works
in the context of stackable filesystems. As that is the one case that
looked like it could be a problem case in your current patchset.
Eric
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2017-05-07 9:21 64fa03de33: BUG:Dentry_still_in_use kernel test robot
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2017-05-08 4:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-05-08 11:47 ` Masami Ichikawa
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2017-05-08 15:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-08 18:11 ` [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-05-09 16:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2017-05-09 20:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-05-09 22:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-13 15:47 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-13 17:14 ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
2017-06-13 17:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-13 23:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-06-13 23:50 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-06-13 17:42 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-13 20:51 ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
2017-06-13 17:45 ` James Bottomley
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2017-06-13 20:46 ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
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2017-06-13 20:49 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-13 20:53 ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
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2017-06-13 20:58 ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:59 ` Mimi Zohar
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2017-06-13 21:09 ` Tycho Andersen via Containers
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2017-06-13 18:12 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-13 23:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-06-14 12:27 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-15 3:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-06-16 9:02 ` Christian Brauner
2017-06-16 22:24 ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-17 20:56 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-18 22:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2017-06-19 1:13 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-19 13:05 ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20 6:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-19 21:34 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
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2017-06-20 5:42 ` Amir Goldstein
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2017-06-20 12:19 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-20 17:33 ` Stefan Berger
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2017-06-20 19:56 ` Amir Goldstein
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