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From: "Denis V. Lunev" <den-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Pavel Emelianov <xemul-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <alexey-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: namespace acceptance process. bad news
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:22:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47568A09.7050305@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47568471.1060503-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> Denis V. Lunev wrote:
>> Hello, All!
>>
>> We are completely bite to ground with the current Eric's patchset today
>> by Dave Miller. flowi tagging considered wrong. The same opinion has
>> been received from Alexey Kuznetsov :(
>>
>> So, it seems that we can't push this approach.
> 
> Argh !
> 
>>
>> Daniel, Benjamin, should I merge your code to our git after this news or
>> we should stop a bit and think? We have talked on OLS that if Dave stop
>> us with current approach we could try global context as in OpenVz.
> 
> IMHO, doing netns switching has no sense now we are so far in the netns
> implementation.
> 
>> I think I'll code this a bit and see a reaction, but we need to have
>> some agreement here :)
> 
> I am more inclined to think about how to handle this problem before
> doing anything.
> 
> Let's try to understand why flowi tagging is considered wrong first.
> 
> Alexey seems to disagree with this approach, is it possible to elaborate
> a little bit ?
> 
>
Here is a quote from Miller:

| I'm not applying this, it's going to have a negative impact on routing
| performance.
|
| It also changes the semantics of the flowi object in a way I very
| much dislike, in that there is now non-clobberable state in there.
|
| Previously only addressing identifying objects were present in the
| flow, you could use it any context, and there were no pointer
| dereferencing or object references from this thing.  It was very
| simple.
|
| That is no longer the case after your patch and I don't want us
| to go down this path.
|
| Please find another way to implement this.

flowi marking is a way to deliver the namespace into the routing code,
as far as I can understand the implementation.

Regards,
	Den

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-05 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-05 10:42 namespace acceptance process. bad news Denis V. Lunev
     [not found] ` <475680A2.2000907-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05 10:58   ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]     ` <47568471.1060503-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05 11:22       ` Denis V. Lunev [this message]
     [not found]         ` <47568A09.7050305-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05 11:52           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05 12:33           ` Alexey Kuznetsov
     [not found]             ` <20071205123355.GA26646-v/Mj1YrvjDBInbfyfbPRSQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05 12:40               ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-05 13:20               ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                 ` <4756A58A.8050103-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05 22:21                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05 12:31       ` Benjamin Thery

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