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From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	Dan Smith <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] c/r: Add UTS support (v4)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C41177.6000908@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237585188.8286.319.camel@nimitz>



Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 17:26 -0400, Oren Laadan wrote:
>> Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 16:48 -0400, Oren Laadan wrote:
>>>> Does that scale well with many (1000's) of tasks ?
>>>>
>>>> (The motivation to expose 'nsproxy_objref' to user space was to allow
>>>> user-space to decide on a sequence of clones/unshared that will create
>>>> an equivalent process tree with space-efficient nsproxy's).
>>> OK, so you're saying that there's no way for userspace to tell that a
>>> set of tasks share an nsproxy other than exporting that nsproxy?
>> I don't think so. Maybe the namespaces people know better.
> 
> Please go look at the code.


Heheh .. read: "I don't think so" as in "I don't think tasks in user
space can tell whether or not they share an nsproxy in the kernel."

(and the corollary follows ...)

> 
> Two processes share an nsproxy (or *can* share an nsproxy) when all of
> the namespace pointers are the same.  After allocation and
> initialization, we basically don't ever write to the nsproxy.  We just
> hook it into a task and run with it.
> 
> If anything ever unshares one of the nsproxy namespaces, before writing
> to it we *first* create a new nsproxy which is a copy of the old one.
> 
> We basically open-code copy-on-write semantics for the nsproxy.
> 
> This means that it is safe for any two tasks that share all of the
> pointers in the nsproxy to share an nsproxy itself.
> 
> -- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-20 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-18 18:51 [PATCH] c/r: Add UTS support (v4) Dan Smith
     [not found] ` <1237402291-28812-1-git-send-email-danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19 22:26   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]     ` <49C2C686.2060806-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19 22:39       ` Dan Smith
     [not found]         ` <871vstdtn1.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19 22:58           ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]             ` <49C2CDFA.4010907-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19 23:13               ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-20 13:56                 ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                 ` <49C2D183.8040905-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 18:10                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20090320181043.GB8380-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 19:34                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                         ` <49C3EFAF.9030706-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 19:59                           ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-20 20:48                             ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                               ` <49C4011C.1050707-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 21:00                                 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-20 21:26                                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                     ` <49C40A23.6080708-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 21:39                                       ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-20 21:58                                         ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2009-03-23 14:52                             ` Dan Smith
     [not found]                               ` <87eiwoi956.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-23 15:08                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-20 18:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20090320180506.GA8380-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 19:38                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <49C3F0A9.9080703-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 20:42                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-19 22:28   ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-24 15:07   ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-24 15:21     ` Dan Smith
     [not found]       ` <87d4c7gd54.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 15:34         ` Oren Laadan

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