From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu
<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Containers
<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][usercr]: Ghost tasks must be detached
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:33:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4DD02B.7070504@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D4DC90B.3010103-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
On 02/05/2011 05:02 PM, Oren Laadan wrote:
>
>
> On 02/05/2011 04:40 PM, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
>> Oren Laadan [orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org] wrote:
>> | Suka,
>> |
>> | This patch - and the corresponding kernel patch - are wrong
>>
>> Ah, I see that now.
>>
>> But am not sure about the kernel part though. We were getting a crash
>> reliably (with older kernels) because of the ->exit_signal = -1 in
>> do_ghost_task().
>
> Are we still getting it with 2.6.37 ?
>>
>> One fix I was watching for was Eric Biederman's
>>
>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/7/12/213
>>
>> which AFAICT has not been merged yet.
>
> If we need it and it isn't in mainline (any reason why ?) then
> we can just add it to our linux-cr tree, as a preparatory patch.
>
>>
>> Was there another change to 2.6.37 that would prevent the crash ?
>
> I don't know whether *that* crash still happens in 2.6.37 -
> because I still didn't test it with that kernel line back.
> (Actually, I never experienced that crash here even with
> earlier kernels).
>
>>
>> | (I should have noticed it in the review!). It turns out that
>> | ghost (and dead) tasks are _not_ auto-reaped anymore.
>> |
>> | There are only two way for tasks to be auto-reaped: one is if
>> | their parent explicitly says so in its sighand information (but
>> | then it applies to all children). The other way is if they have
>> | ->exit_signal==-1. From userspace this happens only when cloning
>> | with CLONE_THREAD. Using 0xFF for the @flags argument to clone()
>> | syscall instead results in ->exit_signal = 255 ...
>> |
>> | The original motivation for this patch was:
>> |
>> | > The downside of marking the task detached in do_ghost_task() is that
>> | > with current/older kernels container-init does not wait for detached
>> | > tasks. See:
>> | >
>> | > http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/16/272
>> | > http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/7/12/213
>> | >
>> | > This can lead to a kernel crash if the container-init pre-deceases a
>> | > ghost task.
>> |
>> | Is this still a problem in 2.6.37 ?
>>
>> Well, some inadvertent userspace changes seemed to cause the crash (or
>> an application hang on some machines) during restart. By making those changes,
>> I seem to be getting an application hang 5 out of 6 times even with 2.6.37,
>> but did not get a crash. I will investigate this new hang next week.
>
> I'm currently chasing down a bug that causes restart to hang when
> there are ghost/dead tasks. It may be the same one you are seeing.
> So far I'm convinced it's userspace - working on it. Will post
> patches once solved.
Actually - scratch that. The bug was related to the new pids-as-objs
patches to user-cr.
Now, given the complexity of that patchset, I don't want to spend
time on picking fixes that require backporting to the current user-cr.
So let's try to focus testing and debugging efforts on kernel/user
that includes those patches ?
Thanks,
Oren.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-05 22:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-11 3:35 [PATCH][usercr]: Ghost tasks must be detached Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20101211033548.GA12584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-11 1:51 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D2BB78A.9090701-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05 18:55 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D4D9D1B.3000209-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05 21:40 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110205214032.GA12944-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05 22:02 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D4DC90B.3010103-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05 22:33 ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2011-02-09 2:09 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
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2011-02-09 3:35 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D520B78.9020300-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 2:44 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110210024430.GA23167-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 3:53 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D536154.8000900-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 6:17 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110210061730.GA25432-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 14:56 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D53FC9C.1050405-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 17:42 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2011-02-16 20:10 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110216201019.GA27698-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-17 15:21 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20110217152116.GM518-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-21 20:40 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110221204058.GC14377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 10:28 ` Louis Rilling
2011-02-09 12:01 ` Louis Rilling
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2011-02-09 12:18 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4D528629.7030905-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-09 12:35 ` Louis Rilling
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2011-02-09 12:37 ` Louis Rilling
2011-02-09 19:02 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110209190216.GA17051-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 10:23 ` Louis Rilling
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2011-02-10 17:54 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110210175409.GB1025-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 18:04 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20110210180433.GI6360-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-10 22:31 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2011-02-25 7:58 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20110225075808.GC24361-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-25 15:46 ` Oren Laadan
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